Radeon 7770 ..

[Tac]

This is the first radeon card i own. Upgrade from an old Nvidia GT240.

On paper it should outperform the old card but in practice it just gives roughly 15fps more on most games.


..but it stutters. Something the old nvidia card doesnt do.

I've updated the drivers to the latest AMD catalyst ones (though mine is MSI Radeon card...i dont see MSI releasing drivers for this). Not the beta but the current standard ones.

My system:

Phenom II quad core 955 BE
MSI 870-G54A mobo
MSI Radeon 7770 1gb
16gb DDR3 1333mhz.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

edit: mispelled the card. 7770

[MrRiplEy[H]]

This is the first radeon card i own. Upgrade from an old Nvidia GT240.

On paper it should outperform the old card but in practice it just gives roughly 15fps more on most games.


..but it stutters. Something the old nvidia card doesnt do.

I've updated the drivers to the latest AMD catalyst ones (though mine is MSI Radeon card...i dont see MSI releasing drivers for this). Not the beta but the current standard ones.

My system:

Phenom II quad core 955 BE
MSI 870-G54A mobo
MSI Radeon 7770 1gb
16gb DDR3 1333mhz.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

edit: mispelled the card. 7770

The 7770 is a lower mid-level card but quite capable for its price. Did you use driver cleaner or reinstall the OS after removing the nvidia card? You may have remains of Nvidia still on your computer. Have you overclocked your CPU? The AMD cpus are horrible performers but the BE should overclock quite easily which makes up part of the gap. If you run it on stock then you're CPU bottlenecked.

[Tac]

Hmm i removed the nvidia drivers... is there a tool nvidia makes to remove all of it? I see some via google search but never heard of the websites that contain it.

No, nothing is overclocked.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Hmm i removed the nvidia drivers... is there a tool nvidia makes to remove all of it? I see some via google search but never heard of the websites that contain it.

No, nothing is overclocked.

Plenty of tools for it, this is one example: http://www.guru3d.com/content_page/guru3d_driver_sweeper.html

Uninstall your graphics drivers once more, use the driver sweeper, reboot and reinstall. If it still stutters after that you've got some other problem. May even be a faulty card.

[Debrody]

The AMD CPUs are not horrible. That 955 is still a bit above the Sandy Bridge i3 on stock clock.
Im using the same CPU with just a little bit better card, and its definiately not a bottleneck.
Definiately shouldnt be CPU-bottlenecked.

[zack1234]

I have a phenom X4
HD 6970

Putting the game on its own partition solved lots of problems

AMD causes stutters apparently 

[MrRiplEy[H]]

The AMD CPUs are not horrible. That 955 is still a bit above the Sandy Bridge i3 on stock clock.
Im using the same CPU with just a little bit better card, and its definiately not a bottleneck.
Definiately shouldnt be CPU-bottlenecked.

Having the high-end cpu at the level of entry-level cpu of the competing company = pretty horrible.

[Tac]

The cost of the intel is too high for many.

Plus, considering any and all games run on this thing , have for the past 2 years and will for at least 3 years more.. I find it silly to spend 300 dollars on a CPU when I can get a fully functional, no issues CPU with the games at less than 100.

I ran the drive cleaner and the stutters remain. I'm going to try the beta drivers next.

I don't think its the card itself. It runs skyrim no problem but in MWO , STO , AH and BG:E it does stutter a bit and my old card never did that.

I'm starting to wonder if its because radeon doesn't have cuda/physx stuff.

[Debrody]

Dont listen to Ripley, comparing a 2009 cpu to a 2012 one is highly unfair. Otherwise an 3.8GHz, the phenom knows 80% as much as the i5-3570 at 3.4, the difference is not as drastical, so no worries.

CUDA/PhisX has nothing to do with stutters, especially not in AH.

Let me guess: when you start to play, you get a decent fps, but after a while its decreasing to the 10-20 range? I have the same problem with a 5830, Fester had the same problem with a 560ti, guessing it is a bug with the V-RAM. Alt+tab in and out usually solves the problem for me.

[LCADolby]

power supply

[Tac]

I've a 600W PSU. It can handle it plenty.

No, the stutters happen when the game seems to try to load new textures. For example in MWO when a mech comes into view for the first time it stut-stutters and then its ok. FPS does not drop.

In Skyrim I don't get stuttering.

In Star Trek Online I sometimes get stuttering when a new special effect is loaded (explosion?) for the first time.

[curry1]

I've a 600W PSU. It can handle it plenty.

No, the stutters happen when the game seems to try to load new textures. For example in MWO when a mech comes into view for the first time it stut-stutters and then its ok. FPS does not drop.

In Skyrim I don't get stuttering.

In Star Trek Online I sometimes get stuttering when a new special effect is loaded (explosion?) for the first time.

Sounds like a driver problem.  Use a driver cleaner program to get rid of any nvidia dirvers that may be left and you may want to uninstall all of the ones for your new card as well and go from scratch.

[Tac]

Did that already.

Even updated my mobo bios just for kicks.

Turns out the beta drivers are not XP compatible. UGH.

Guess im stuck with this weirdness.

First and last Radeon i'll ever own 

[WWhiskey]

 I have no problem what so ever  with the 7770!

  but i got most of my gain by going to a solid state hard drive,, I cannot express how much difference it made!

[guncrasher]

Dont listen to Ripley, comparing a 2009 cpu to a 2012 one is highly unfair. Otherwise an 3.8GHz, the phenom knows 80% as much as the i5-3570 at 3.4, the difference is not as drastical, so no worries.

CUDA/PhisX has nothing to do with stutters, especially not in AH.

Let me guess: when you start to play, you get a decent fps, but after a while its decreasing to the 10-20 range? I have the same problem with a 5830, Fester had the same problem with a 560ti, guessing it is a bug with the V-RAM. Alt+tab in and out usually solves the problem for me.

could the problem be the amd processor itself?  it has been discussed many times that amd and aces high sometimes dont play nice.  and that is due to the amd cpu itself, it doesnt happen with all amd cpus, but it does happen with some.  it has also been pointed out that a lot of the problems in the game happen with those who have amd cpus.

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