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Offline Tac

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Re: Radeon 7770 ..
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2012, 03:17:01 PM »
doubt it since the old GT240 worked a-ok.

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Re: Radeon 7770 ..
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2012, 08:00:12 PM »
I have a 7870 and an Intel E8400 and I get minor stutters occasionally as well.

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Re: Radeon 7770 ..
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2012, 08:57:19 PM »
Did that already.

Even updated my mobo bios just for kicks.

Turns out the beta drivers are not XP compatible. UGH.

Guess im stuck with this weirdness.

First and last Radeon i'll ever own  :old:

It's kinda ironic that you support nvidia which is known to carry a price premium even when having no benefits in performance and yet refuse to use Intel products which clearly outperform the competition. The Radeon is not the reason for your problems, it's something else. Do you have enough system ram? Maybe your computer starts to swap when new textures load or something?

If you still use XP, how old is your installation? If you've been using it for years chances are your registry is filled with gunk and half of your dlls are not what they should be anymore. A format and reinstall will make wonders most probably. In reality you should upgrade anyway, XP is discontinued long time ago and the drivers are not developed for it anymore.
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Re: Radeon 7770 ..
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2012, 03:48:45 AM »
He stated that he has 16GB ram...  if thats enough...   ;)
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« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2012, 03:56:24 AM »
He stated that he has 16GB ram...  if thats enough...   ;)

16Gb ram on a Windows XP? Someone doesn't know what he's doing now.

With the 7770 he has little over 2Gb of usable ram left from that.
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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2012, 04:00:16 AM »
Reinstalling system is a very good idea :old:

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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2012, 06:20:33 AM »
If I was going to switch between ATI and NVidia (either way), I would bite the bullet and reinstall the operating system.  It really is not simple to switch between those two brands.  They do what they can to make sure you regret it if you do.
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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2012, 03:47:13 PM »
16Gb ram on a Windows XP? Someone doesn't know what he's doing now.

With the 7770 he has little over 2Gb of usable ram left from that.

Its ready for an OS upgrade.. just need to get around to save for it. I'm not impressed with Win8.

What do you mean it has little over 2gb because of the 7770? This is the first I hear of this  :confused:


Skuzzy & Ripley: I had not considered that possibility. Could be. Will see how I can get it done... my next upgrade is my HDD anyway. We'll see.

Ripley: My AMD fandom is the price not the performance per se. Like I said, a phenom II x4 955 runs any and all games out there pretty darn well and for under 100 bucks its something I like. I wont be getting a 300 dollar CPU to get what is essentially a not so visible performance boost in said games. I don't have that kind of cash to toss around. :)

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Re: Radeon 7770 ..
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2012, 05:20:00 PM »
Tac,

i would recommend the Win7. Please dont waste your money on the windows8.
Dont worry, from 16GB you will have a load of ram remaining for your programs. Actually 8 is enough for almost anything but high quality rendering.
Your system is actually all-AMD, it should work well withouth problems - see, AMD is not stupid producing hardware what are incompatible with each other. I hope everything will work allright after the reinstallation.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2012, 05:22:24 PM by Debrody »
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2012, 12:46:46 AM »
Its ready for an OS upgrade.. just need to get around to save for it. I'm not impressed with Win8.

What do you mean it has little over 2gb because of the 7770? This is the first I hear of this  :confused:


Skuzzy & Ripley: I had not considered that possibility. Could be. Will see how I can get it done... my next upgrade is my HDD anyway. We'll see.

Ripley: My AMD fandom is the price not the performance per se. Like I said, a phenom II x4 955 runs any and all games out there pretty darn well and for under 100 bucks its something I like. I wont be getting a 300 dollar CPU to get what is essentially a not so visible performance boost in said games. I don't have that kind of cash to toss around. :)

What I mean is that Windows XP is a 32-bit operating system. It can only use 4Gb of memory and even from that your display memory, memory reserved for peripherals etc. is removed. Because the 7770 has 1 gig of display memory it will leave less than 3 gigabytes of usable ram for your operating system and applications.

From your 16 gigs, 13 is completely useless when using XP. Even PAE won't help because the 32-bit drivers do not support it.

The AMD hardware has proven to be more problematic than intel, mainly because of hardware compatibility and driver problems. It can theoretically be one of the sources of stutter when combined with the new graphics card. Most likely however is that your OS installation is just messed up after having different brand drivers installed one after another.

I would try to do a clean reinstall of the OS before buying any new hardware. Clean setup and make sure you install up to date versions of all drivers, especially the motherboard drivers. Windows XP is fighting a lost cause already - as you've noticed manufacturers are dropping support for it completely. It's several years outdated.
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Re: Radeon 7770 ..
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2012, 03:05:51 AM »
Are there no 64bit XPs??
As far as i can remember, there were 64bit AMD CPUs back in 2004, when the vista were nowhere in sight.
Im getting curious.
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« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2012, 03:15:16 AM »
Are there no 64bit XPs??
As far as i can remember, there were 64bit AMD CPUs back in 2004, when the vista were nowhere in sight.
Im getting curious.

The 64-bit XP (XP64) was extremely rare and drivers for it are even more rare. Which coincidentally is the reason it was never widely adopted. It's highly unlikely the OP has the 64-bit version.

Server versions of Windows were available in 64-bit form for a long time before they came mainstream.
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« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2012, 04:26:26 AM »
Thanks for the info!
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Re: Radeon 7770 ..
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2012, 12:13:46 PM »
Tac- I skim/read most of the thread, but didn't notice anybody mention it.  Have you tried a defrag of your HD?  If I missed that you had, my apologies.  If you haven't, you might try it.  I've seen it improve similar situations to what you're describing just because the wrong file was in pieces.

Might do nothing, might fix it for little to no effort.

Good luck in any case.

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Re: Radeon 7770 ..
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2012, 03:04:10 PM »
Ok i have had alot of flickering and artifacts with my 7850 card.I RMAd and got my second card in two months and had same issues.Went to AMD forums and noticed ALOT of people are having issues with 7xxx series cards and the new drivers.Heres what i did and it fixed all my problems.First download driversweeper then go to Amd driver site and download driver 12.4.Uninstall current driver restart boot into safe mode and use driversweeper to purge old drivers.Then install 12.4 and see if this fixes your problems.Amd knows about these issues and is working on them.There last driver fixed some performace issues flickering and lockups on some games.

Try this and let me know if it works for you.
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