Eny changes

[SmokinLoon]

I see your point on the ENY scoring, I too have issues the current gv ENY structure.  The scale is not weighed accurately, imo, at least in LW arena.

40 ENY:
jeep
M3
SdKfz 251
M4/75
Pzr IV F 1/2
T34/76
LVT's
Storch

35 ENY:
M16

25 ENY:
Ostwind
Pzr IV H

20 ENY:
T34/85
M18

18 ENY:
M4/76mm

15 ENY:
Firefly
Wirblewind

12 ENY:
Panther

10 ENY:
Tiger

5 ENY:
King Tiger

If 40 is the *weakest*, and 1 is the absolute best, then I think HTC should explore moving the King Tiger down to 2, Tiger down to 5, and the Panther down to 10.  We're talking about the epitome of tanks in WWII, those three tanks ultimately ruled the battlefields and anything HTC brings along after those three will be hard pressed to best that trio.  Then, the middle tiered tanks such as the Firefly, M4/76, T34/85, M18, and Pzr IV H all could use a slight drop on the scale.  Point being, the only gv's that should be at 40 should be the weakest of the weak and the Jeep, Storch, and maybe the LVT-2 deserve that score, imo.  Otherwise, the M3 is no longer an automatic pushover thanks to the 75mm, the LVT 4 can lay waste to a town, the T34/76 is the fastest tank in AH and is well armored (M18 is TD), and the M4/75mm Calliope is unsurpassed when it comes to decimating a town.  The Panzer IV F2 ultimately matches the T34/85's AP ability, fire faster, and can carry %50 more ammo.  Oh, and what else can carry troops and rain 28cm rockets on a town besides the SdKfz 251???  All but a couple 2 or 3 gv's should be bumped down from 40, imo.

Here is my suggestion for ENY values (based on main gun [AP/HE ability], armor, sights, speed, reload, and other attributes):

TANKS
King Tiger: 2
Tiger: 5
Panther: 10
Firefly: 15 (as is)
M4/76: 16
T34/85: 18
M18: 18
Pzr IV H: 22
Pzr IV F: 28
M4/75: 30
T34/76: 35
M8: 38

Support:
M3: 32
SdKfz 251: 35
LVT-4: 35
LVT-2: 38
Jeep 40 (as is)
Storch: 40 (as is)

Anti-Aircraft:
Wirblwind: 15 (as is)
Ostwind: 25 (as is)
M16: 35 (as is)          

[Karnak]

Bangsbox,

If your concern is usage, if anything, the Fw190A-8 might need to be lowered more:

Tour 154:
Bf109G-14: Kills: 3998 Deaths: 3154
Fw190A-8: Kills: 6265 Deaths: 5408
Fw190D-9: Kills: 8738 Deaths: 5917
La-5FN: Kills: 817 Deaths: 737
P-51B: Kills: 3282 Deaths: 2368
Spitfire Mk VIII: Kills: 5351 Deaths: 5092

It seems to do quite well in comparison to the second stringers of other popular lines.  Fw190D-9 included to show the standing of the first stringer in the Fw190 line.

[bangsbox]

The k/d comparison of the 190d to 190a8 I think shows that the a8 should have a slight bump in eny. From what you posted.

And I really like to use M8 more but as things stand right now it doesn't make sense to not take the Early panzer over it. I think a change in M8s (and m3 and german half track)eny would rectify that. As for  jeep and storch they are really the scouts and gv sup runner and you don't get perks for that anyway so an eny change I don't think is warranted. Also king tiger panther and tiger as it stands if you get 10+ kills your only getting practically a perk or 2 any so changes to there eny don't really matter.

[Babalonian]

Good thread, IMHO the LWMA aircraft Enys could use some overhauling, it's too generalized with there being too many aircraft selections available.
I also think, especialy when taking into consideration the learning curve(s), newer players need "easier" perk points.
And then there's the "seasoned" players who need more perk point dumps, you really cache some up over time.

[Karnak]

The k/d comparison of the 190d to 190a8 I think shows that the a8 should have a slight bump in eny. From what you posted.

Why?

The Spitfire Mk VIII's ENY is far, far lower than the Fw190A-8 and it shows lower usage and a worse K/D ratio.  As I said, if anything the Fw190A-8 needs a lower ENY.  Requesting that it be raised is only a request to get bonus perk points for using a relatively common and effective fighter.

[bangsbox]

The spit8 is a staple plane flown by newbies much like the 51 and it's k/d is reflective of that. They own in MA and are used as learner rides by many. And yes I do want to eny for more perks out of A8 sorties. That's the main point for eny (at least I use it that way lol). And it's kick down from its historical 31 to 25 is prob the biggest drop in AH history and I think a boost to 28 is not unreasonable.

[Karnak]

The spit8 is a staple plane flown by newbies much like the 51 and it's k/d is reflective of that. They own in MA and are used as learner rides by many. And yes I do want to eny for more perks out of A8 sorties. That's the main point for eny (at least I use it that way lol). And it's kick down from its historical 31 to 25 is prob the biggest drop in AH history and I think a boost to 28 is not unreasonable.

It is unreasonable.  The usage level of the Fw190A-8 and its K/D ratio are both much higher than other aircraft in that category.  It doesn't warrant a higher ENY.  Its ENY should probably be more in the 20 or 22 range.


If the Spit VIII were a staple plane its usage would be higher than the Fw190A-8s, not lower.

[bangsbox]

Well it's a British staple like 51 for Americans. I would at spit 16 but I wouldn't think neebies like clipped winged spits

[Karnak]

Well it's a British staple like 51 for Americans. I would at spit 16 but I wouldn't think neebies like clipped winged spits

As a comparison:

Tour 154:
P-51D: Kills: 20793 Deaths: 17719
Spitfire Mk XVI: Kills: 13382 Deaths: 11884


As you can see, the first stringers of those lines have a much larger lead over the second stringers than the Fw190D-9 has over the Fw190A-8.

[save]

without a radiator that in AH extends out to its spinner, D9 would be eny 10