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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2012, 07:09:11 PM »
i'll be making phone calls to 2 friends of mine that work at autozones, and let them know about this.....and why they'll never see me step foot in one, or call to order something.

then check out the policy on all the other stores/banks/pizza delivery, including o'reillys....   they all have the standard policy, no guns or you will get fired. 


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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2012, 07:41:12 PM »
then check out the policy on all the other stores/banks/pizza delivery, including o'reillys....   they all have the standard policy, no guns or you will get fired.  


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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2012, 08:06:25 PM »
It's all about $$$ for the company.  Their insurance probably has a compliance clause in the policy that requires employees to comply or escape, nothing else.  It's cheaper to bury an employee now and then than it is to pay for more expensive insurance for all their stores.

Here is your answer ^.

They likely had no choice but to fire him or lose their insurance coverage. The story would be the same at O'Reilley's, Pep Boys or any other corporate owned store. Blame the insurance company.

The upside of this is the guy is likely to land a job 10x better than the one he had from all the press it's getting.
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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2012, 02:04:08 AM »
common sense and truth has no place in a thread like this, you unamerican POS!

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that has nothing to do with the facts that all big corporations will fire whoever brings a gun to stop a robbery.  it's in their policy.  oreilly has the same policy.  burger king, macdonalds, pizza hut, domino's have all fired employess for having possession of a gun even when they were being robbed.


funny how you call me unamerican while you live in new zeland.


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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2012, 02:15:53 AM »
It's all about $$$ for the company.  Their insurance probably has a compliance clause in the policy that requires employees to comply or escape, nothing else.  It's cheaper to bury an employee now and then than it is to pay for more expensive insurance for all their stores.


it's not so much that is cheaper to bury an employee, companies pay plenty when employees die.  but for an untrained employee coming in with guns blazing and hurting customers that would be some serious crap.  then the money will run into the millions of dollars.  remember the 2 trained nypd officers that hurt a bunch of civilians?  it could happen at you nearest burger king too.

Also, keep in mind that many employers have life insurance policies on their employees, so the death of an employee on the job is a cash gain for them.

this is misleading bunnies.  most companies will  only have insurance policies on "key" employes of the company.  meaning Senior VP's and above.  the rank and file will be covered by their umbrella policy.  and most likely the deductible wont even cover an employees death.  companies do offer insurance policies to the rank and file but that is for the benefit of their families.  there's no "insurable interest" for the rank and file.  wikipedia has a pretty good write up on it.

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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2012, 02:22:58 AM »
it's not so much that is cheaper to bury an employee, companies pay plenty when employees die.  but for an untrained employee coming in with guns blazing and hurting customers that would be some serious crap.  then the money will run into the millions of dollars.  remember the 2 trained nypd officers that hurt a bunch of civilians?  it could happen at you nearest burger king too.

this is misleading bunnies.  most companies will  only have insurance policies on "key" employes of the company.  meaning Senior VP's and above.  the rank and file will be covered by their umbrella policy.  and most likely the deductible wont even cover an employees death.  companies do offer insurance policies to the rank and file but that is for the benefit of their families.  there's no "insurable interest" for the rank and file.  wikipedia has a pretty good write up on it.

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I was referring to several class action lawsuits against Walmart... (but you are right, I don't know if autozone does this)
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/southcentral/2006/12/07/74803.htm
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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2012, 02:42:27 AM »
He took the initiative, saved lives, and defended his place of business from hostile attack....

how does this man deserve firing?

Logic escapes me.


I suppose we would expel baseballers who use their bats to fend off a man robbing their clubrooms.... "use of offensive weapons against a member of the public".

Its the same logic... American citizens, especially veterans, are generally armed, and restricting their constitutional rights, and their ability to carry out their civic duties isn't on.
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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2012, 02:51:41 AM »
I hate to crush your butterfly but contrary to what you may have seen in the movies we don't all normally walk around with six shooters on our hips.
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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2012, 03:59:38 AM »
Most US Citizens that I know personally over the age of 18, have Concealed Carry.

My friend 1sum41 on this very BB, has enough firepower to wage a small war.

Im just saying that a considerable number of American Citizens are armed, and that should be taken into account.
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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2012, 04:33:00 AM »
Most US Citizens that I know personally over the age of 18, have Concealed Carry.

And the VAST majority of Americans I know over the age of 18 don't have concealed carry.

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My friend 1sum41 on this very BB, has enough firepower to wage a small war.

Good for him, but that doesn't have anything to do with anything.

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Im just saying that a considerable number of American Citizens are armed, and that should be taken into account.

More Americans drink than own guns so by that logic we should be able to turn up to work drunk.

Do a lot of us own guns?  Sure we do, but that doesn't mean we walk around strapped up all the time.  Stuff like this makes for a great sensationalism piece and all but it's not that uncommon.  A lot of places, probably more than not, have policies on weapons in the workplace, and pretty much anyplace retail or with cash on hand tells their people in the case of a robbery to just cooperate and get it over with and get the offenders out the door as quickly as possible.  Does it suck that he lost his job?  It sure does, but he broke the rules and with stuff that serious it's usually no tolerance. 
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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2012, 04:39:59 AM »
I hate to crush your butterfly but contrary to what you may have seen in the movies we don't all normally walk around with six shooters on our hips.
youre right, i personally have a five shooter
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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2012, 05:00:18 AM »
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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2012, 05:56:08 AM »
my wife has worked in retail and she says they cant confront anyone about stealing, they just have to let them walk out the door.  pretty rediculous

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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2012, 07:03:57 AM »
It's ashamed he got fired. As a Vet my policy - Whatever the Robber was to take would have been covered
by insurance. His life cannot be replaced. I would've said, Sure take everything, I'll be glad to help you clean out registers.
It's Not MY property, no threat to any of My family members? Not worth Mylife.
I could understand if it was his store/property. Otherwise not worth the risk, especially for a
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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2012, 07:58:14 AM »
then check out the policy on all the other stores/banks/pizza delivery, including o'reillys....   they all have the standard policy, no guns or you will get fired. 


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 i happen to know for fact that the mom n pop place i buy my pizza from has at least 2 firearms in the store at all times. often there's local police in there too. i order from papajohn's sometimes, and the usual driver is a marine, who was injured, and now is out. i generally make sure to tip him much better than i would anyone else.

 people have to take a stand, or things will spiral downhill quickly. the guy did break their rules. the circumstances warranted a closer look at said rules, and perhaps a writeup, rather than firing someone that actually cares about his place of work, and his co-workers. i'd have that guy work with/for me any time.
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