I love the 410!!!!

[Karnak]

"Allied High"?  Really?  If you want everything you say to be ignored that kind of juvenile BS is a good way to accomplish that.

You compare the Me410's wing to the Typhoon's and Hurricane's wing and then whine about it not turning as well, but ignore the fact that the Me410's wing loading is vastly higher than either and that the Typhoon is hardly good at turning while the Hurricane is slow as molasses.  The Typhoon also rolls like crap.

As to the Mosquito's radiators, De Haviland claimed that they provided a net boost in thrust, much like the P-51's.  I am not sure if that is true or not though as Supermarine claimed the Spitfire's radiator would boost thrust too and if it did it wasn't even close to compensating for the drag of the radiator.

[Wmaker]

You compare the Me410's wing to the Typhoon's and Hurricane's wing and then whine about it not turning as well, but ignore the fact that the Me410's wing loading is vastly higher than either and that the Typhoon is hardly good at turning while the Hurricane is slow as molasses.  The Typhoon also rolls like crap.

I didn't see Charge saying anywhere that Me410 should turn as well as the aircraft he mentioned. That would be rather illogical considering the differences in turn radius of the Hurricane and the Typhoon for example and thus, it's rather illogical to assume that he meant that.

Maybe you should read his post again?

[SmokinLoon]

More than once I've done a tight turn in a 110, 410, A20, or other such aircraft and then hopped in to that dorsal rear gun and caught a pursuing fighter with a face full of lead enough to smoke an engine, deal a PW, or generally make them get shy real quick.  The slower the aircraft and the more time the rear gunner has to let loose a steam of fire the more likely they will pull their own weight.  It helps to be low and slow.  When at higher alts and higher speeds the fighters have an even greater advantage. 

Do not discount the dorsal rear guns on anything if you're in their line of fire.    

[Torquila]

Man, ive sent plenty of non monster (some monster) planes home packing with just the two 13mm, let alone my fantasy of 4

The 410 handles the extra 1000lb's of rockets pretty easily without being fazed, so 2 more barbettes on the already existing mechanism might of been ok

*sigh*

[SmokinLoon]

Man, ive sent plenty of non monster (some monster) planes home packing with just the two 13mm, let alone my fantasy of 4

The 410 handles the extra 1000lb's of rockets pretty easily without being fazed, so 2 more barbettes on the already existing mechanism might of been ok

*sigh*

Not sure which plane you've been flying with the 4 air to air rockets on them, but the 410 is a dead dog instead of just a dog when the 4 rockets are mounted.   

FWIW, I've recorded the different weights each weapon package has.  For simplification purposes we'll say all of the packages include %50 fuel (40min in MA) and 4/13mm MG's:

+2/20mm: 21118 lbs (base package)
+4/20mm: 21689 lbs
+6/20mm: 22198 lbs
+2/20mm & 2/30mm: 22479 lbs
+2/20mm & 1/50mm: 22601 lbs

As you can see, having just the 50mm adds almost 1500 lbs to the plane from the base weight that is shown in the speed/climb charts.  The 410 is a different bird once the weight is piled on, the same cant be said for the Mossi Mk IV and 110G-2.  It seems to be that the 410 is very adversely affected by any extra weight in handling and acceleration.  I've not tested the top speeds just yet, but will.   

[Torquila]

It does make it a little sloshy, as does having 100% fuel; but it sure doesnt effect the flight characteristics as bad as it effects the 110G!

[Debrody]

It does make it a little sloshy, as does having 100% fuel; but it sure doesnt effect the flight characteristics as bad as it effects the 110G!

Maybe because its already that much worse than the 110?

[save]

IRL 410 where effective killers vs unescorted bombers, and as  night-fighters, something AH unfortunately can not reproduce due to the fact that bombers defensive weapons reach out and are effective up to 1.5k out in AH and we do not have night in here.

I still remain suspicious against its compression speed, and its total vulnerability to enemy fire.


Also a small numbers of allied planes got shot down by the rear gunner of the 410.

[Torquila]

Anyone notice that when the 410 loses its left rudder, it dips to the left on climbs?

[Debrody]

I was living in an illusion that the 410 only had one rudder.

[Torquila]

[MOSQ]

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No wonder it turns so poorly!

[nrshida]

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Bit odd. Off to the bugs section with you young man 

[Wmaker]

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That seems to be a bug in the dmg-listing.

Do you know what a rudder is?

[nrshida]

Do you know what a rudder is?