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Offline SPKmes

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Re: Check your closets
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2012, 07:59:16 PM »
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Re: Check your closets
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2012, 09:35:20 PM »
Oh rats, I found one of these half a year ago but scrapped it because I thought it was a cheap AK-47 knockoff. Had a bent barrel and a weird sight anyway.
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Re: Check your closets
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2012, 12:10:28 AM »
If you got 25+ grand to buy a functional STG44, you can splooge on a

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« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2012, 06:05:24 AM »
Oh rats, I found one of these half a year ago but scrapped it because I thought it was a cheap AK-47 knockoff. Had a bent barrel and a weird sight anyway.

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Re: Check your closets
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2012, 07:10:39 AM »
They had a weapons amnesty in this country a few years ago. No Stg 44s turned up as far as I know but I seem to remember seeing a Bren gun on a news report. I hope that wasn't melted down. But some of the so called weapons handed in weren't exactly illegal. Knives, Swords, starting pistols and replicas even an ancient musket. Some of them would have been valuable. People are stupid. :bhead

I collect occasional bit of militaria and some of them are quite valuable now. Even a standard WW2 GI M1 helmet can go for several hundred dollars these days. But WW2 German helmets and equipment can go for silly money. Yet people still dump them without thinking. On one collector forum there's a guy who works in recycling and scrap yard in the US. He regularly picks up militaria worth hundreds of dollars that people just throw away. I hate to think what gets lost every day.

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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2012, 10:06:30 PM »
The gas system is similar to the STG, but the rest is very different mechanically. There's some M1 Garand in there, some Browning. The folding stock on the AKS is from an MP40. The action is based on Kalashnikov's earlier carbine design, strongly influenced by the Garand, that lost to the SKS for service with the Red Army. To say the the AK-47 is a copy of the STG44 is just pure bollocks. That the STG influenced Kalashnikov's design layout is obvious.

The STG44's most direct descendant is the H&K G-3 series, even if the design moved away from gas operation to roller delayed blowback.

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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2012, 03:26:40 PM »
Nice rifle you got there. Yes, the Mauser team working on the STG45 (that was to replace the STG44 in German service) moved to France and then Spain and developed the STG45 into the CETME rifle. The G3 is for all intents and purposes a license produced version of the CETME model B.
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Re: Check your closets
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2012, 09:16:28 PM »
Ive got a buddy whos grandfather was in the SS. Fought at the Siege of Stalingrad. He was given a pistol from the commander of German forces in Stalingrad, and my friend now has it in his closet.

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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2012, 04:55:49 PM »
Well, The G3 was a licensed version of the CETME 58. Smuggled out of Germany to Spain after the war, the German's had to buy a license to manufacture a rifle that was designed in Germany. I own a CETME 58...

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Re: Check your closets
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2012, 05:38:07 PM »
Ive got a buddy whos grandfather was in the SS. Fought at the Siege of Stalingrad. He was given a pistol from the commander of German forces in Stalingrad, and my friend now has it in his closet.

He's got Friedrich Paulus' personal side arm?

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Re: Check your closets
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2012, 06:08:21 PM »
He's got Friedrich Paulus' personal side arm?

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Yup. He also has his Iron Cross that was given to his grandfather by Hitler.

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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2012, 06:47:49 PM »
Yup. He also has his Iron Cross that was given to his grandfather by Hitler.

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Re: Check your closets
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2012, 06:53:06 PM »
He's got Friedrich Paulus' personal side arm?

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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2012, 08:11:02 PM »
Yup. He also has his Iron Cross that was given to his grandfather by Hitler.

Any proof that it's actually Paulus' side arm?  Not saying it's not true but if you have any proof that it was Paulus' side arm from the time he was in Stalingrad, you've got yourself a very expensive bit of history that gun and WW2 collectors would trip over themselves to buy.  The pistol would be worth even more money if it was the side arm he surrendered at the time of his surrender.


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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2012, 08:20:40 PM »
If it was the pistol he surrendered at stalingrad I dont see how it wouldnt have ended up on Stalins desk.

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