Author Topic: New Bombs (Two SBD's or B5N's Can Now Destroy a Shore Battery!)  (Read 1410 times)

Offline Karnak

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Re: New Bombs (Two SBD's or B5N's Can Now Destroy a Shore Battery!)
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2012, 11:08:53 AM »
SmokinLoon,

Per my testing earlier this year:

210mm WGr21 rocket: 93.50lbs of damage
PB1 rocket: 93.50lbs of damage
4.5" M8 rocket: 125.00lbs of damage
100lb bomb: 156.20lbs of damage
HVAR 5" rocket: 159.50lbs of damage
50kg bomb: 171.80lbs of damage
RP-3 60lb rocket: 187.50lbs of damage
250lb bomb: 312.50lbs of damage
500lb bomb: 562.50lbs of damage
250kg bomb: 618.70lbs of damage
1000lb bomb: 1000.00lbs of damage
500kg bomb: 1100.00lbs of damage
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Re: New Bombs (Two SBD's or B5N's Can Now Destroy a Shore Battery!)
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2012, 01:29:16 PM »
SmokinLoon,

Per my testing earlier this year:

210mm WGr21 rocket: 93.50lbs of damage
PB1 rocket: 93.50lbs of damage
4.5" M8 rocket: 125.00lbs of damage
100lb bomb: 156.20lbs of damage
HVAR 5" rocket: 159.50lbs of damage
50kg bomb: 171.80lbs of damage
RP-3 60lb rocket: 187.50lbs of damage
250lb bomb: 312.50lbs of damage
500lb bomb: 562.50lbs of damage
250kg bomb: 618.70lbs of damage
1000lb bomb: 1000.00lbs of damage
500kg bomb: 1100.00lbs of damage


Thanks.  That is very much what I have with the only difference being the 5in HVAR rockets, I have them at 156 lbs but I have not tested them in the last 12 mos.  What do you have for the 2000 and 4000 lb GP bomb for damage? 1600kg?

Do you have the damage for the Soviet RS rockets and German 28cm rockets?  If not, let me know I just tested them again about 4 mos ago.
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Re: New Bombs (Two SBD's or B5N's Can Now Destroy a Shore Battery!)
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2012, 01:51:31 PM »
Those are all of the numbers I completed.
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Re: New Bombs (Data Testing) :)
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2012, 02:42:19 PM »
just to be sure, I', not asking for damage "points", I'm asking for the damage as compared to the 1000 lb bomb standard, as in how many lbs does it take to destroy a hanger, etc.
 

If you have the internal damage points for all the bombs including the 1000lbs one, you also have the numbers compared to the 1000lbs standard ;)

BTW, it was your own thread where HiTech posted the damage values for the GP bombs: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,301412.msg3870327.html#msg3870327
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Re: New Bombs (Data Testing) :)
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2012, 03:58:17 PM »
If you have the internal damage points for all the bombs including the 1000lbs one, you also have the numbers compared to the 1000lbs standard ;)

BTW, it was your own thread where HiTech posted the damage values for the GP bombs: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,301412.msg3870327.html#msg3870327

Indeed.  I'm just making sure nothing has changed.  Pyro himself said once upon a time that some changes slip through the cracks and are not listed in the change log.   :aok

There are two sets of numbers when speaking of bombs.  There are the damage points and there are the damage values (my terms).  What registers as damage points in the text bar does not represent actual damage delivered to a target per say.  If and when a player drops 2000 lbs of ordnance (2/1k bombs) on a shore battery (SB harness is set to 3906 lbs) and then successfully lands, the text bar does not show "Player landed 2000 damage in a B26", it will show "Player landed 1280 damage in a B26).  If that same player drops 4/500lb bombs on the SB instead of the 1280 lbs of damage in the text bar it will show "Player landed 1440 damage in a B26", yet that same player delivered 2248 lbs of damage value to towards the SB's 3906 lb hardness setting.  Please correct me if I am wrong. 

Damage points vs damage value.  Two different things.  The list that Karnak posted are actual on site damage values towards the destruction of whatever OBJ is the targer, that is what I am looking for.  If a 1000 lb GP bomb does 1000 lbs of damage toward a SB, then a 1600 lb AP should in theory deliver 2400 lbs of damage (but obviously the heavier the bomb the less efficient it is per lb) .  I have yet to test it offline.  However, I did get to test it out in the EW arena and my two drops on a SB did NOT destroy it (direct hits within 15 mins of each other), so the damage is projected to be less than 1953.  Did you arrive at the 1968 lbs for the 1600 lb AP bomb offline?
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Re: New Bombs (Two SBD's or B5N's Can Now Destroy a Shore Battery!)
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2012, 09:02:58 AM »
In order to have napalm, other changes need to be made to the game such as modeling fire damage to objects.

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I realize this, all i'm saying is that fire damage should have been one of the first things modeled into the game imo.
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Re: New Bombs (Data Testing) :)
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2012, 09:09:23 AM »
Indeed.  I'm just making sure nothing has changed.  Pyro himself said once upon a time that some changes slip through the cracks and are not listed in the change log.   :aok

There are two sets of numbers when speaking of bombs.  There are the damage points and there are the damage values (my terms). 


For the record, I was never speaking of the "damage points" appearing in the host message in the arena - I was strictly referring to the values the game is using internally to apply damage, which are not using the "1000lbs bomb equivalent" format.
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Re: New Bombs (Data Testing) :)
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2012, 10:17:12 PM »
If you have the internal damage points for all the bombs including the 1000lbs one, you also have the numbers compared to the 1000lbs standard ;)

BTW, it was your own thread where HiTech posted the damage values for the GP bombs: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,301412.msg3870327.html#msg3870327

Two years ago and the damage done is measured as "GP"

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