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Isoroku Yamamoto, the Commander-in-Chief of the Combined Fleet
« on: December 28, 2012, 07:06:10 PM »
Pretty good film. A must-see for Pacific War buffs. Chronicles the life and death of Admiral Yamamoto starting pre-war with the politics in Tokyo. The battles of Pearl Harbor and Midway are central to the film, and of course Yamamoto's assassination by P-38s in '43.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG1ogKV70-E

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Admiral-Blu-ray/43681/
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Re: Isoroku Yamamoto, the Commander-in-Chief of the Combined Fleet
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2012, 07:21:48 PM »
Looks like a good one.

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Re: Isoroku Yamamoto, the Commander-in-Chief of the Combined Fleet
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2012, 09:46:11 PM »
Curious choice of word there for the killing of a military soldier by other military soldiers during a declared war.
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Re: Isoroku Yamamoto, the Commander-in-Chief of the Combined Fleet
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2012, 10:02:29 PM »
No disrespect intended, though it was controversial at the time. He was the specific target of operation Vengeance, and Frank Knox required FDR to sign-off on the Yamamoto assassination before he'd order admiral Nimitz to carry it out. When you specifically target an enemy leader outside of normal military operations it is generally called "assassination". The British used commandos to kidnap and/or kill German high ranking officers, so it's nothing unique.
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Re: Isoroku Yamamoto, the Commander-in-Chief of the Combined Fleet
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2012, 11:49:37 PM »
 Again, curious that the British commandos 'killed'' their targets, but the Americans "assasinated" their's...interesting.

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Re: Isoroku Yamamoto, the Commander-in-Chief of the Combined Fleet
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2012, 12:13:34 AM »
We got over it though.  We now target individuals all the time and if anyone asks about it they get a stack of legal documents waved in their face, to a chorus of "wartime necessity STFU noob!"  2 presidents (and at least one unsuccessful presidential candidate) and a handful of secdef's think it's a great idea, so it must be ok.

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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2012, 12:17:39 AM »
Heck, we blew up one guy and when his teenage son came looking for him months later we blew him up too.  It used to be you only saw that sort of thing in the movies, like Eastwood's awesome line in Unforgiven. 

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Re: Isoroku Yamamoto, the Commander-in-Chief of the Combined Fleet
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2012, 01:13:04 AM »
We got over it though.  We now target individuals all the time and if anyone asks about it they get a stack of legal documents waved in their face, to a chorus of "wartime necessity STFU noob!"  2 presidents (and at least one unsuccessful presidential candidate) and a handful of secdef's think it's a great idea, so it must be ok.



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Re: Isoroku Yamamoto, the Commander-in-Chief of the Combined Fleet
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2012, 09:10:30 AM »
Hey, start your own thread on "assassinations" or "killing" or whatever. This thread is about a film.
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Re: Isoroku Yamamoto, the Commander-in-Chief of the Combined Fleet
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2012, 10:30:27 AM »
     Well I hope they get the "assassination" part down correctly.  My old USAF unit were the ones that did it after all.  :D
The SAPP guys will be happy that it was in P-38s too  :lol
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Re: Isoroku Yamamoto, the Commander-in-Chief of the Combined Fleet
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2012, 10:49:16 AM »
     Well I hope they get the "assassination" part down correctly.  My old USAF unit were the ones that did it after all.  :D
The SAPP guys will be happy that it was in P-38s too  :lol

What are the odds that they'll put in a picture of a P-51, P-40, or some German plane in the shootdown scene?  If I was a total cynic I'd bet that they take down his plane with an air to air missile   :devil
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Re: Isoroku Yamamoto, the Commander-in-Chief of the Combined Fleet
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2012, 11:44:51 AM »
If it was a Hollyweird film I'd bet on a P-51, but no. It was a squadron of P-38s. The CGI/model work is not up to spec with AAA titles, but despite this the CGI looks more real. It's not overdone or flashy.
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2012, 11:49:35 AM »
Pick a fight with a big dog and it is likely you will get bit....
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Re: Isoroku Yamamoto, the Commander-in-Chief of the Combined Fleet
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2012, 12:18:21 PM »
     Well I hope they get the "assassination" part down correctly.  My old USAF unit were the ones that did it after all.  :D
The SAPP guys will be happy that it was in P-38s too  :lol

Then see if they did it right or screwed up; some screens from the final fight:

P-38s engage:



Close up on one of the 38s:



Escorting Zekes drop tanks and engage:



ASSASSINATION! (Or kill or whatever ;))
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Re: Isoroku Yamamoto, the Commander-in-Chief of the Combined Fleet
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2012, 01:30:50 PM »
Looks good but if theyd translate it to English theyd probably get more subscriptions.  :O :bolt:
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