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Offline lulu

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Re: I know, I know ... but what do you think about this?
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2013, 08:10:51 AM »
A small slim case has been asking for trouble even in non-gaming computers. I have had several clients with a toasted motherboard in a small case.

One of the Finnish stockists sent me an ad about the Alienwares, to my eye they seemed to be quite pricey compared to what a custom built would cost in our local shop. Check the prices for those components with a decent case and PSU. I suppose there are Italian manufacturers who have an online pc building calculator for their models, such can give you more hints about where to save, where not.

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Re: I know, I know ... but what do you think about this?
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2013, 08:57:48 AM »
TY Bizman.

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Re: I know, I know ... but what do you think about this?
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2013, 10:14:15 AM »
Very powerful CPU paired with an upper-medicore GPU, not too price/experience-effective.
Also, what Bizman said - overpriced.
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Re: I know, I know ... but what do you think about this?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2013, 11:19:44 AM »
overpriced.

While I agree with the rest, but why do you think it's overpriced?

You'll have a hard time finding i7 system with the same specs and semi-decent quality for less.

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Re: I know, I know ... but what do you think about this?
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2013, 12:16:02 PM »
The Aurora is the only one of the two which could be considered a long time gaming rig. I only know the local stock price, which would lead to a retail price of about €2500. I may be poor, but to me that sounds like quite a lot of money.

OTOH, if money is no issue, I found a custom built gaming rig for €9900...

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Re: I know, I know ... but what do you think about this?
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2013, 01:45:02 PM »
I have been doing a lot of current market research for new systems both tower and laptops. It all depends on what your overall goal is: Max FPS, Portability, Budget.

On Max Frames per Second - desktop wins and ranges in cost depending on monitor upgrade is avg 1,500 bucks to the elite machines for end all gaming 7,500 bucks +

On Portability - laptop wins (I have seen some LAN computer builds, but that is a custom case build done by me and friends for LAN Parties. Hardly never in the consumer market will you see full size components in a portable case.) and ranges in cost depending on size of viewable screen, blueray player, motherboard upgradable, chipset ect avg 1,500 bucks (I stole mine off newegg for 700 bucks I7 with OC) up to 7,000 bucks +

On Budget - For a budget build the Desk Top wins. You can take 2,000 bucks and get close to a 5,000 machine using some old components like the case and not usually the PSU, HD, Monitor and sometimes RAM & PCI Devices depending on "age of the existing machine". If say, you wanted to be in the 1,000 - 1,500 range you can still come out on top going desktop over laptop in terms of raw processing power per dollar spent. Then factor in upgradable future and the laptop is wiped out of the picture compared to a desktop.

References for your enjoyment. Be sure to look at each part in detail, then google the product and see what a place like http://www.tomshardware.com/ says about it and make an informed buying decision.

Notebooks - http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/category/notebook/
(These are all 3D ready Laptops, bad too the bone I7 chips ect... Not your run of the mill average laptop)

Desktops - http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/landingpages/intel/i7/?gclid=CJ35itzsmrICFQKf7QodskAA2Q


Here are some examples for a 700-800 dollor budget build. All prices listed Lowest to Highest (In fairness too notebooks there are a ton on the market for 700-800 bucks but not in terms of raw processing power)

Corsair Case - http://www.compusa.com/applications/Category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=32&sel=Mfr%3BMfr_1499

1155 Socket Motherboard - http://www.compusa.com/applications/Category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=13&sel=Detail%3B31_174_68338_68338

1155 Processor - http://www.compusa.com/applications/category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=22&sel=Detail%3B112_174_68338_68338

RAM - http://www.compusa.com/applications/Category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=10&sel=Detail%3B30_170_12739_12739


Hope this helps.



Old post but the links are still good I think...
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Re: I know, I know ... but what do you think about this?
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2013, 12:52:59 PM »
What do you think about these?

AMD 10-5800K QUAD CORE, 8 GB RAM, HD 500 GB, DVD/CD, FLASH CARD READER,
LAN, SATA 3, USB 3, ATI 7770 1 GB DDR5 ... 560 Euro

AMD A10-5800K QUAD CORE, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB HD, DVD/CD, CARD READER, SATA 3, USB 3,
ATI 8770 2 GB DDR5, HD SSD Samsung 830 128 GB 530 MB/s ... 996 Euro

I suppose that they are discrete. Aren't they?

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Re: I know, I know ... but what do you think about this?
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2013, 05:14:05 PM »
Lulu,

The A-10 APU is an entry level CPU and an entry level GPU on one chip. They are not bad, but if youre buying a discrete video card, you might not want to get one with a cpu. You wont be able to use it either.
If youre thinking in that price-range: Fx-4xxx CPU (same as in the APU), AM3+ motherboard, and the discrete 7770 is what you want. Its a pretty much entry level system.

For the second one, as far as i know, the discrete 8000 series GPUs havent came out yet, not even for the OEMs. Also, the first Alienware one is a whole lot better for that price, both CPU and GPU-wise.
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