1969 Ford Mustang Boss 429

[katanaso]

Wanted to share this, from another board:

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=FL0113-143167&entryRow=10&GROUP_ID=10104

and

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=FL0113-143449&utm_source=delivra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=FL0113_S121

Just awesome. 

 

[rpm]

Sweet!

[uptown]

Nice cars for sure but damn they're awful proud of them to be asking that much money. They'll be lucky to get 100K

[SFRT - Frenchy]

Waste of money.

[RTHolmes]

between them thats 11,000 miles in 86yrs.

what a waste of car.

[sunfan1121]

Waste of money.

The person who buys this car has money to waste.

[The Fugitive]

Nice cars for sure but damn they're awful proud of them to be asking that much money. They'll be lucky to get 100K

Have you ever watched that auction? They will have no trouble getting that kind of money for them. There are an amazing number of idiots out there that have no clue as to what to do with their money an so they bid against each other for these cars. Which they will no doubt stick in a garage some place to hold on to for awhile before selling it to some other idiot.

Cars are to be driven.

[CAP1]

gorgeous cars. it's ashame they were never really good street performers.....

[Skuzzy]

gorgeous cars. it's ashame they were never really good street performers.....

Yeah, those heads were an abortion of a design.

[CAP1]

Yeah, those heads were an abortion of a design.

 i never got to see the design.........i always felt it was a good engine. but it was a good engine on a race track. on the street, there generally wasn't any way to get the engine to where it liked...........

[Skuzzy]

The original Boss 429 heads had a pushrod through the intake tract.  Due to the turbulence this introduced, Ford had to open the intake port up more, lowering the velocities of the intake charge to the point that pooling would occur in the base of the port.

It was a bad design.  Modern versions of this head (i.e. Kasse 9) have corrected all the ills of the original design.

[Grayeagle]

A friend from long ago had one of those .. reworked into a bit of a hot rod (ie..not 'stock' but still the Boss 429 in it) ..
..took it on a road trip with wife..wife pulled out to pass and floored it, completely lost it and the car went sideways into a stand of small trees at ~100mph.
Totalled the car, him and his wife were unhurt.

Just about as squirrely as you could get on bias ply tires.. they had very little traction.
I had the opportunity to wring out a '67 Shelby Mustang convertible one fine day ..dual quad 428 and automatic ..
..I bought my '69 383 Road Runner instead.

The Mustang was able to completely fry the tires at half throttle and going around corners, forget it.
Scared the *crap* out of the salesman gettin sideways at just 35mph ..car was more squirrely than the tri-power '69 Vette I wrung out later on.

It wasn't just the heads that were a bit screwed .. it was a squirrely car and outright dangerous to get on the gas.

-Frank aka GE

[uptown]

The original Boss 429 heads had a pushrod through the intake tract.  Due to the turbulence this introduced, Ford had to open the intake port up more, lowering the velocities of the intake charge to the point that pooling would occur in the base of the port.

It was a bad design.  Modern versions of this head (i.e. Kasse 9) have corrected all the ills of the original design.

I'm impressed at the depth of knowledge a computer geek as yourself has for old Ford engine design. 

[Skuzzy]

I'm impressed at the depth of knowledge a computer geek as yourself has for old Ford engine design. 

Well, I was building high performance engines over 40 years ago.

I am pretty certain I have forgotten more than I remember.  Like the original rods used splash for oiling the wrist pins which caused them to wear prematurely, so a modified rod with a bead running up one side and then drilled to carry oil directly to the wrist pin was done to fix that.

Or how the sodium filled exhaust valves used to crack and do so real nasty things to the engine once the sodium got exposed.

The Boss 429 was a bit of a mess.  Had gobs of torque, but horsepower was lethargic, at best.  It did not handle worth a darn either. 

[Megalodon]

Well, I was building high performance engines over 40 years ago.

I am pretty certain I have forgotten more than I remember.  Like the original rods used splash for oiling the wrist pins which caused them to wear prematurely, so a modified rod with a bead running up one side and then drilled to carry oil directly to the wrist pin was done to fix that.

Or how the sodium filled exhaust valves used to crack and do so real nasty things to the engine once the sodium got exposed.

The Boss 429 was a bit of a mess.  Had gobs of torque, but horsepower was lethargic, at best.  It did not handle worth a darn either.  

I remember something about this wasn't there a 428 Boss as well? in the Mustang Cobra jet?... had a similar problem and the motors were switched? Or was it 427 and 428?

My Lady's Father is Al Cadrobbi he was a Porsche guy back at the same time you were a Cobra guy, maybe a few years before.

In the 80's he hooked up with Ted Gildred and they had a small race team in Solona Beach. They had lots of cool stuff 718rs60, 718rsk, 356GT, Lola t70, Tiga mkII, M20 McClaren, Ferrari 625, and the reason for my post a 68 Super Cobra Jet.

Edit: 68 cobra Jet