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Offline Slate

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Re: Big fighter planes easy targets?
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2013, 07:15:01 AM »

   Fw-190d's attract the rats like a piece of chesse. There can be 10 other cons but they go for mine like I got a target on my back. Then again the 1 ping and I'm smoking or PW kind of cheesey.  :uhoh
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Re: Big fighter planes easy targets?
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2013, 12:15:20 PM »
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I'd go for the highest one or the one who has the speed to get the highest

+1  Knock out the biggest threat first then re-evaluate via SA.

SA to determine in less than a few seconds:
* How many cons are left?
* How far away are they and what is their altitude?
* What plane types are they (are they a threat given your current E and Alt)?
* How does your fuel and ammo look?
* Which way is home?

Basically standard Oswald Boelcke practices.
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Re: Big fighter planes easy targets?
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2013, 01:08:01 PM »
As an example, when you have you have a  choice of saddling up on a  Mustang, Spit, P47 or P38 below you and you have a good position on all of them, which plane would you choose first?  All pilots have equal skills lets say.

Tactically, I would think the choice should be taking out the plane that is the greatest threat to equalize or advance his or her's E.  Real game life though most seem to choose bigger plane first.  That's my take on it anyway.

Didnt read the rest of the thread, but if those choices were all under me this is the order I'd shoot for. (Let's say I'm flying my P51)


1st: Spit. If he climbs and gets Co-E with me I'm in a heap of trouble. Hes First.
2nd: P38: Lasers for guns, will out turn me and he has a bigger profile, hes next.
3rd: P47. Holds E in the vertical. Can't extend away from a good 47 pilot, at least not by diving.
Last is the P51. He's probably already gone by now but if he was a skilled pilot I'm confident enough in my flying that I could out-fly a Pony that I have an e-advantage on.

This would change as the fight progressed. If I were missing shots as I'm diving in and one of the planes was getting close to leveling out the E-advantage I had I would switch my focus to him to kill him/bleed his E.
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Re: Big fighter planes easy targets?
« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2013, 01:09:42 PM »
+1  Knock out the biggest threat first then re-evaluate via SA.

SA to determine in less than a few seconds:
* How many cons are left?
* How far away are they and what is their altitude?
* What plane types are they (are they a threat given your current E and Alt)?
* How does your fuel and ammo look?
* Which way is home?

Basically standard Oswald Boelcke practices.

That last one is the one I always screw up on. If it comes time for RTB due to fuel or ammo I frequently seem to hit the deck going the wrong way.
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Re: Big fighter planes easy targets?
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2013, 02:00:23 PM »
I would usually go for the P38 because most of the time it's either an easy kill OR a great fight with a good stick

However if the Spit had enough E to be a threat I'd have to try a pass or two on him first.

Ignore the P51 and P47 as if they do end up attacking they will just hit the deck and 'extend' after one reversal
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Re: Big fighter planes easy targets?
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2013, 02:55:16 PM »
I would usually go for the P38 because most of the time it's either an easy kill OR a great fight with a good stick

You admit the 38 would be a good fight, so you kill it first? Kill the others and have a 1v1 with the 38.
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Re: Big fighter planes easy targets?
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2013, 02:56:29 PM »
thats just silly scotch

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Re: Big fighter planes easy targets?
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2013, 03:01:14 PM »
You admit the 38 would be a good fight, so you kill it first? Kill the others and have a 1v1 with the 38.

Well, the way I see it the P38 is quite often going to be an easy kill in one pass...in a situation where I/we are outnumbered I will always try to take those opportunities to even the odds...
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Re: Big fighter planes easy targets?
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2013, 03:08:10 PM »
I always wing up with Razor.  When we run into a pack of red guys, 99% of the time they all jump on that big fat Mossie.  Mind ya, he usually kills most of them, but I do get some scraps. :aok
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Re: Big fighter planes easy targets?
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2013, 03:46:37 PM »
spit or pony first the 38 would be just after. i fly 38s alot and its not hard to get a kill on a BnZer that doesnt kill you on first pass and goes right back up. with a 38 on your 6 in a climb you arent safe from its AMAZING guns untill your 1.5K out with more E...reason for pony/spit on first 2 passes i want to have a few kills before i take my chances of missing a 38 and getting chewed up on my way back to the perch i dont see jug as a threat untill it is co-alt/E with me.
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