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Offline Megalodon

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German Military Laser
« on: January 13, 2013, 02:40:13 PM »
Who needs guns or tanks anymore? When they get to 900k or more.. planes, tanks, bombs will be obsolete? would a 500kw go 10km? 5000kw go 100km? 500 of these on trucks on boats..... :confused: :eek:


They plan to build a 60kw then a 100kw in the next years.
http://singularityhub.com/2013/01/07/german-military-laser-destroys-targets-over-1km-away/

"A German company has brought us one step closer to the kinds of shootouts only seen in Sci-Fi films. Düsseldorf-based Rheinmetall Defense recently tested a 50kW, high-energy laser at their proving ground facility in Switzerland. According to the company, the laser passed the test with “flying colours.”

The system isn’t actually a single laser but two laser modules mounted onto Revolver Gun air defense turrets made by Oerlikon and attached to additional power modules. The laser modules are 30 kW and 20 kW, but a Beam Superimposing Technology (BST) combines two lasers to focus in a “superimposed, cumulative manner” that wreaks havoc on its targets.

First, the system sliced through a 15mm- (~0.6 inches) thick steel girder from a kilometer away. Then, from a distance of two kilometers, it shot down a handful of drones as they nose-dived toward the surface at 50 meters per second. The laser’s radar, a widely used system called Skyguard, was capable of tracking the drones through their descent up to three kilometers away.

For its finale, the laser’s ability to track a very small ballistic target was demonstrated. It honed in on and destroyed a steel ball 82mm in diameter traveling at 50 meters per second. The small ball was meant to simulate an incoming mortar round. Rheinmetall says their laser will reduce the time required for C-RAM – Counter Rocket, Artillery, and Mortar measures – to a matter of seconds, even in adverse weather conditions. In fact, weather at the Ochsenboden Proving Ground in Switzerland where the demonstration was carried out included ice, rain, snow, and extremely bright sunlight – far from ideal
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Re: German Military Laser
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2013, 02:49:11 PM »

The system isn’t actually a single laser but two laser modules mounted onto Revolver Gun air defense turrets made by Oerlikon and attached to additional power modules. The laser modules are 30 kW and 20 kW, but a Beam Superimposing Technology (BST) combines two lasers to focus in a “superimposed, cumulative manner” that wreaks havoc on its targets.


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Re: German Military Laser
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2013, 03:04:36 PM »
Actually, should there ever be a limited-nuke WWIII. Lasers only have to take out the eyes of the occupants inside the vehicles. As a matter of fact we already have people on the ground today with commercially available lasers potentially capable of bringing down aircraft.

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Re: German Military Laser
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2013, 03:09:07 PM »
No no, it's "laser"....

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Re: German Military Laser
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2013, 03:30:02 PM »
Makes for interesting future. I have long thought that in the contest between air power and air defense that technology was going to make it very easy to shoot down planes, missiles, etc. Once that happens then the focus of power projection will shift to GVs.

With GVs there is a technology floating around Youtube etc that 'bends light' around objects, such as vehicles. Both are truly RMAs.
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Re: German Military Laser
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2013, 03:37:21 PM »
In a real war, those laser guns will be deflected from bulletproof mirrors to send the beams either back to its originating source or away from the intended target.

High energy beams will be sent all over the place causing fires wherever they strike.  PSA messages will be broadcast over radio and satellite from Smokey the Bear saying, "Only you can prevent forest fires".  With the destruction of buildings and military vehicles, Woodsy the Owl will be adding his PSA to, "Give a hoot and don't pollute."  Finally, the wanton destruction will lead to vandalism and theft prompting McGruff the Crimedog with his PSA to, "Take a bite out of crime."

Wars using laser beams will be an enviromentalist nightmare.  Stick to swords and shields with the occasional battering ram and catapault.  You won't be sued by the EPA.


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Re: German Military Laser
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2013, 03:50:49 PM »
No Mr Bond

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Re: German Military Laser
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2013, 03:55:48 PM »
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Re: German Military Laser
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2013, 05:03:02 PM »
Actually, should there ever be a limited-nuke WWIII. Lasers only have to take out the eyes of the occupants inside the vehicles. As a matter of fact we already have people on the ground today with commercially available lasers potentially capable of bringing down aircraft.

Systems already exist that take out optical systems tracking aircraft using laser technology.  And have so sense the 70s
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Re: German Military Laser
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2013, 05:59:12 PM »
Just make a bigger version.

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Re: German Military Laser
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2013, 10:23:36 PM »
Geese that's going to be a big shark to swim around with that strapped to his head.... :bolt:

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Re: German Military Laser
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2013, 10:58:23 PM »
Is it more expensive to have an arsenal of lasers or an extra layer of "mirror armor" for every piece of hardware you own?

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Re: German Military Laser
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2013, 11:22:47 PM »
Who needs guns or tanks anymore? When they get to 900k or more.. planes, tanks, bombs will be obsolete? would a 500kw go 10km? 5000kw go 100km? 500 of these on trucks on boats..... :confused: :eek:

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They plan to build a 60kw then a 100kw in the next years.
http://singularityhub.com/2013/01/07/german-military-laser-destroys-targets-over-1km-away/

"A German company has brought us one step closer to the kinds of shootouts only seen in Sci-Fi films. Düsseldorf-based Rheinmetall Defense recently tested a 50kW, high-energy laser at their proving ground facility in Switzerland. According to the company, the laser passed the test with “flying colours.”

The system isn’t actually a single laser but two laser modules mounted onto Revolver Gun air defense turrets made by Oerlikon and attached to additional power modules. The laser modules are 30 kW and 20 kW, but a Beam Superimposing Technology (BST) combines two lasers to focus in a “superimposed, cumulative manner” that wreaks havoc on its targets.

First, the system sliced through a 15mm- (~0.6 inches) thick steel girder from a kilometer away. Then, from a distance of two kilometers, it shot down a handful of drones as they nose-dived toward the surface at 50 meters per second. The laser’s radar, a widely used system called Skyguard, was capable of tracking the drones through their descent up to three kilometers away.

For its finale, the laser’s ability to track a very small ballistic target was demonstrated. It honed in on and destroyed a steel ball 82mm in diameter traveling at 50 meters per second. The small ball was meant to simulate an incoming mortar round. Rheinmetall says their laser will reduce the time required for C-RAM – Counter Rocket, Artillery, and Mortar measures – to a matter of seconds, even in adverse weather conditions. In fact, weather at the Ochsenboden Proving Ground in Switzerland where the demonstration was carried out included ice, rain, snow, and extremely bright sunlight – far from ideal


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Re: German Military Laser
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2013, 04:38:59 AM »
Is it more expensive to have an arsenal of lasers or an extra layer of "mirror armor" for every piece of hardware you own?

I believe this type of laser will actually burn through conventional mirrors also. And even if not, an enemy with a perfect mirror finish is going to shine brightly in battlefield, ripe for conventional weapons.
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Re: German Military Laser
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2013, 07:13:03 AM »
Ceramics is the way to go. They're already in use in modern Chobham armor to resist against HEAT weapons. No laser will penetrate ceramic materials that can resist temperatures as hot as the surface of the sun.
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