M3/C47 instant town resuplying---not fun, annoying

[SmokinLoon]

Wow again NOTHING said about the rook HORDES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll wait for someone else to chime in on what they think they ratio of bases taken with the 30v1 hordes actually is.  But for me, for every 10 bases taken with the horde "tactic", I will bet that the ratio is at least 6 are done by bitshes, and the remaining 4 are split in some way between the nits and rewks.  I'm not denying that the Rooks and Knights do not horde, but when the pattern is night after night after night of Bitshop hordes of loaded P51's and/or P38's that come in and level the field so their is no chance of defense... if the shoe fits you wear it and right now the glass slipper fits the Bitshops perfectly.  

For reference, I despise hordes regardless if I'm my country is on the receiving end or the giving end.  It is very rare that I'll take part in a horde per say.  I find no joy in capturing a field with no defenders by virtue of inability to mount a defense, it reeks of 12 yo gamers wanting the "win" behind their name.  I'd much rather work my tail off and win (or lose) a field by the slightest of margins.  THAT is rewarding.  Being a part of a horde is like being a bench warmer on a winning team: you're begging for play time and hope you get a target but it doesnt matter because you still get the "win" and "high-fives" for a job well done.  I truly feel sorry for people who lean on that as their AH experience.  Seems to me WoP would be a better place for those types of players.    

My favorite way to capture a base is to have a set of heavy bombers "prep" the town, then bring in 3-4 Mossi's and Typhoons with ordnance and guns blazing while having a few Spitfires provide cover between town and field. Oh, and timing it all to get the goon(s) in within seconds of having the ack down and white flag up.  Using 6-8 guys to capture a field using precision and timing, that is a rush.  I'd rather fail using that or similar tactics than win with little effort (aka 'duh hordez!).

To each his own.

[HawkerMKII]

   
My favorite way to capture a base is to have a set of heavy bombers "prep" the town, then bring in 3-4 Mossi's and Typhoons with ordnance and guns blazing while having a few Spitfires provide cover between town and field. Oh, and timing it all to get the goon(s) in within seconds of having the ack down and white flag up.  Using 6-8 guys to capture a field using precision and timing, that is a rush.  I'd rather fail using that or similar tactics than win with little effort (aka 'duh hordez!).

To each his own.

Still a horde in most peoples eyes if the bish do it, but if rooks or nits do it ...."It's A Well Planned Mission". The hordes on all sides are here to stay and if we the players dont like it, we can live with it or move on, nothing we or HT can do about it

[Greebo]

I'll often up to defend a base that is under attack, but many won't. I have long said HTC should give the more score-obsessed players a reason to fight while outnumbered. Bias score based on the number of red and green icons in range at the time of each kill. More green than red = worse score, more red than green = better score. That way they would be more inclined to go looking for hordes to fight rather than joining them.

[The Fugitive]

Still a horde in most peoples eyes if the bish do it, but if rooks or nits do it ...."It's A Well Planned Mission". The hordes on all sides are here to stay and if we the players dont like it, we can live with it or move on, nothing we or HT can do about it

SMokinLoon's mission isn't a horde, I'd even go as far as 10 players in the mission as not being a horde. The mission he describes is the missions this game is missing. With the horde there is very little chance of NOT succeeding, where is the fun in that? Miss your bombing assignment, No Problem! 6 guys have the same target, just in case.

Yes all sides horde, BUT the Bish are notorious for it. It seems that it is the only way they can get anything done. I'd be willing to bet they also "win the war" most often, and I'm sure it is due to this horde style.

Can anything be done? you bet! Even the players have the control to take care of it, but they won't. All you need is for the little generals to start making better missions. Build the mission around 30 players. Use some as a bomber group to come in at alt, some as fighter cover for them, some as deackers, some as porkers for adjacent fields to kill supply runs. If you DON'T get 30 guys adjust your plan, maybe a few less fighters for cover, our have the porkers do both bases in stead of using two teams. The point is the "leaders" have the control and can control the hordes, but they won't.

Today's players are too tied up in the win the war at all costs, because after all there really isn't any cost right? That is where HTC could make their changes and make it "cost" something.

Would it be better for the game? I don't know, but I think it would. I know I would spend more time in missions if there was a purpose other than being one of 30 guys to take a port     Defending would be more fun as you and the other 5-6 guy who upped might have a chance to defend as opposed to just padding some dweebs score.

[VonMessa]

okay then..................thats why there was 2 massive bombing raids on our strats one with 17s the other with lancs from the rooks I've seen knits put up a bigger horde than us bish

Shhhh!

Massive bombing raids are not hordes, they are fun.

Dinnertime!

[HawkerMKII]

SMokinLoon's mission isn't a horde, I'd even go as far as 10 players in the mission as not being a horde. The mission he describes is the missions this game is missing. With the horde there is very little chance of NOT succeeding, where is the fun in that? Miss your bombing assignment, No Problem! 6 guys have the same target, just in case.

Yes all sides horde, BUT the Bish are notorious for it. It seems that it is the only way they can get anything done. I'd be willing to bet they also "win the war" most often, and I'm sure it is due to this horde style.

Can anything be done? you bet! Even the players have the control to take care of it, but they won't. All you need is for the little generals to start making better missions. Build the mission around 30 players. Use some as a bomber group to come in at alt, some as fighter cover for them, some as deackers, some as porkers for adjacent fields to kill supply runs. If you DON'T get 30 guys adjust your plan, maybe a few less fighters for cover, our have the porkers do both bases in stead of using two teams. The point is the "leaders" have the control and can control the hordes, but they won't.

Today's players are too tied up in the win the war at all costs, because after all there really isn't any cost right? That is where HTC could make their changes and make it "cost" something.

Would it be better for the game? I don't know, but I think it would. I know I would spend more time in missions if there was a purpose other than being one of 30 guys to take a port     Defending would be more fun as you and the other 5-6 guy who upped might have a chance to defend as opposed to just padding some dweebs score.

Well hate to say it but even with only 10 bish in a unplanned base take it will be forever called a horde.....just happened this AM. Guess what I am trying to say is just getting a little PO'ed that you all just go about bish horde this , bish horde that, but you all won't look in the mirror at your own freking side that does the same thing. Even when the 91st would do alot of high alt bombing missions the cry of the day time after time was "Here comes the fun police". Sure is strange that the DevilDogs are never called the fun police and I would for sure call them a "MEGA HORDE" do you? And have you ever said anything to them about not Hording........if not then clean you own house before trying to clean others!

[The Fugitive]

Well hate to say it but even with only 10 bish in a unplanned base take it will be forever called a horde.....just happened this AM. Guess what I am trying to say is just getting a little PO'ed that you all just go about bish horde this , bish horde that, but you all won't look in the mirror at your own freking side that does the same thing. Even when the 91st would do alot of high alt bombing missions the cry of the day time after time was "Here comes the fun police". Sure is strange that the DevilDogs are never called the fun police and I would for sure call them a "MEGA HORDE" do you? And have you ever said anything to them about not Hording........if not then clean you own house before trying to clean others!

I always call a horde a horde no matter which side it is on. Your so blinded by being called a hordling all the time that you can't even read and comment on the rest of the posts that point out EVERYONE agrees ALL SIDES HORDE. I use to call out where the hordes and NOEs on the Rooks side were going until HTC posted it would be considered cheating.

I try to talk Rooks out of hording, do you try talking Bish out of it?

[HawkerMKII]

I always call a horde a horde no matter which side it is on. Your so blinded by being called a hordling all the time that you can't even read and comment on the rest of the posts that point out EVERYONE agrees ALL SIDES HORDE. I use to call out where the hordes and NOEs on the Rooks side were going until HTC posted it would be considered cheating.

I try to talk Rooks out of hording, do you try talking Bish out of it?

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all the time

[SmokinLoon]

Well hate to say it but even with only 10 bish in a unplanned base take it will be forever called a horde.....just happened this AM. Guess what I am trying to say is just getting a little PO'ed that you all just go about bish horde this , bish horde that, but you all won't look in the mirror at your own freking side that does the same thing. Even when the 91st would do alot of high alt bombing missions the cry of the day time after time was "Here comes the fun police". Sure is strange that the DevilDogs are never called the fun police and I would for sure call them a "MEGA HORDE" do you? And have you ever said anything to them about not Hording........if not then clean you own house before trying to clean others!

Like most of have said, all sides "horde".  Thing is it is expected that the Bitshes horde as a SOP.  Again, I call it as I see it and I see it quite plain as day.  Matter of fact, no I do not partake in Devil Dog missions per say, all I've ever done is take out radar a time or 2 and moved on.  I refuse to fight for targets, it gets old.  The 30 v 1 hordes are for people who like to have the "win" behind their name, give each other the high fives for a job well done, and do the absolute minimum amount of work.  The "win" is all that matters.  Having to work for something is not in the game plan for a horde, if it was then hangers and auto ack would be left up so there would be at least a sliver of a chance to defend.

So you go ahead and horde and keep congratulating all your fellow horde members on their hard won victory over a defender who wasn't even able to fire a shot, keep getting your "winz".  I will continue to partake in AH in the multiple ways in which I enjoy which is about everything but being a part of a horde.  You and others like you might find satisfaction in earning something sometime,try it.  It really is more fun when there is something to play against and actually defeat.  But then again in today's world the theme is "right now", and "everyone gets a trophy", so it does explain your mentality. A horde is a horde regardless of which country it originates from.  What is it not though is something that is embraced by the majority of Knight and Rook players, there is too much to do in AH to have a 1 track mind for the "winz".  The least you "winnerz" could do is challenge yourselves and bring something other than the best.  Lets see how your hordes do armed with 109G-6's, triple 20mm's, and the single 250kg bomb. Oh wait, we're missing the point here aren't we?  Hordes go for the win using the easiest of means and that calls for using the best in as many numbers as possible.  

btw... I too am vocal about NOT hording.  I encourage guys to run missions, but the rolling horde is frowned upon.  Speaking of which, there are MANY other kinds of missions that can be run w/o having to capture a field. 

last word: there is one benefit of the massive hordes.  Once the hordes reach deep in to enemy territory we as players do get to view and use terrain that is not seen or used on a normal basis.  New scenery is always good. 

[Tracerfi]

Like most of have said, all sides "horde".  Thing is it is expected that the Bitshes horde as a SOP.  Again, I call it as I see it and I see it quite plain as day.  Matter of fact, no I do not partake in Devil Dog missions per say, all I've ever done is take out radar a time or 2 and moved on.  I refuse to fight for targets, it gets old.  The 30 v 1 hordes are for people who like to have the "win" behind their name, give each other the high fives for a job well done, and do the absolute minimum amount of work.  The "win" is all that matters.  Having to work for something is not in the game plan for a horde, if it was then hangers and auto ack would be left up so there would be at least a sliver of a chance to defend.

So you go ahead and horde and keep congratulating all your fellow horde members on their hard won victory over a defender who wasn't even able to fire a shot, keep getting your "winz".  I will continue to partake in AH in the multiple ways in which I enjoy which is about everything but being a part of a horde.  You and others like you might find satisfaction in earning something sometime,try it.  It really is more fun when there is something to play against and actually defeat.  But then again in today's world the theme is "right now", and "everyone gets a trophy", so it does explain your mentality. A horde is a horde regardless of which country it originates from.  What is it not though is something that is embraced by the majority of Knight and Rook players, there is too much to do in AH to have a 1 track mind for the "winz".  The least you "winnerz" could do is challenge yourselves and bring something other than the best.  Lets see how your hordes do armed with 109G-6's, triple 20mm's, and the single 250kg bomb. Oh wait, we're missing the point here aren't we?  Hordes go for the win using the easiest of means and that calls for using the best in as many numbers as possible.  

btw... I too am vocal about NOT hording.  I encourage guys to run missions, but the rolling horde is frowned upon.  Speaking of which, there are MANY other kinds of missions that can be run w/o having to capture a field. 

last word: there is one benefit of the massive hordes.  Once the hordes reach deep in to enemy territory we as players do get to view and use terrain that is not seen or used on a normal basis.  New scenery is always good. 

i have almost stopped flying in the late war because of the hoards i rarely go in late war mostly midwar

[Chalenge]

Like most of have said, all sides "horde".  Thing is it is expected that the Bitshes horde as a SOP.  Again, I call it as I see it and I see it quite plain as day.  

You have blinders on. Every country does it. No exception.

@ghi: Careful ghi. If the bomber pilots realize the perks you can get from resupply they will kill this and no one will do it.

[The Fugitive]

You have blinders on. Every country does it. No exception.

@ghi: Careful ghi. If the bomber pilots realize the perks you can get from resupply they will kill this and no one will do it.

I guess you have a problem with reading comprehension.

Here is the quote you, yourself used....

Like most of have said, all sides "horde".  Thing is it is expected that the Bitshes horde as a SOP.  Again, I call it as I see it and I see it quite plain as day. 

See that big bold part there? What it means is THAT ALL SIDES HORDE. Your comment of "you have blinders on" doesn't make sense relating to the comment you quoted. 

We all agree that ALL sides do it, most would also agree that it is the main way Bish play.

[VuduVee]

in response to the OP. kill the barracks at every base that spawns in. not only kill those, but also the next layer of bases, so that they have to resupply two bases before they can get supps to the base being hit. i like the system of being able to resup a town. its a good way to stop the bish horde monkeys.

[Chalenge]

I guess you have a problem with reading comprehension.

Here is the quote you, yourself used....

See that big bold part there? What it means is THAT ALL SIDES HORDE. Your comment of "you have blinders on" doesn't make sense relating to the comment you quoted. 

We all agree that ALL sides do it, most would also agree that it is the main way Bish play.

Moonbat! He also said SOP. I guess your retention rate was exceeded, huh? Crawl back to the rock!

[SmokinLoon]

You have blinders on. Every country does it. No exception.

Obviously, you can't read.  Read the entire post and then think about what you said.

You're excused, Jr. Carry on.