Stopping Lancstukas.

[skorpx1]

There is an unbelievable amount of people going Stuka in their Lancs in game. Not only is this completely unhistorical, which the game isn't aimed at, but its also highly annoying when some idiot without any clue on how to use a bombsight downs a CV because he was able to dive straight down on it from 4k and hit it like his Lancs were SBD's or Ju-87's. What I suggest is that bombs are only able to be dropped in formation/single of bombers if you're in the bombsight. If you aren't the bombs cant be dropped and your attempt at downing a CV in a straight dive downwards is foiled.

That is all I ask for.

[Lusche]

I wonder why do I never see those Lancs "diving straight down" 

[kvuo75]

There is an unbelievable amount of people going Stuka in their Lancs in game. Not only is this completely unhistorical, which the game isn't aimed at, but its also highly annoying when some idiot without any clue on how to use a bombsight downs a CV because he was able to dive straight down on it from 4k and hit it like his Lancs were SBD's or Ju-87's. What I suggest is that bombs are only able to be dropped in formation/single of bombers if you're in the bombsight. If you aren't the bombs cant be dropped and your attempt at downing a CV in a straight dive downwards is foiled.

That is all I ask for.

iirc lancs were able to drop bombs at 20 degree dive IRL? (going from memory)


20 degree is actually pretty steep, certainly "lankstuka" territory..

[skorpx1]

I wonder why do I never see those Lancs "diving straight down" 

Straight down might be an overstatement, but when you have Lancs going at a 45 degree angle with their drones barley hanging on, there's something wrong with that.

[Ack-Ack]

I wonder why do I never see those Lancs "diving straight down" 

I was thinking the same thing.  I've played this game longer and a lot more than the OP has and I rarely see "Lanstukas" as much as the OP claims he does.  I guess it's just a case of youth embellishment.

iirc lancs were able to drop bombs at 20 degree dive IRL? (going from memory)


20 degree is actually pretty steep, certainly "lankstuka" territory..

I've also read a lot of Lancaster pilot accounts of using shallow dive bombing techniques where they would enter into a shallow dive to the target and then level out over target to release their bombs.  For some reason people that play AH tend to think the Lancaster isn't a maneuverable plane due to it being a heavy bomber but nothing could be further from the truth.  For being a bomber and it's size, it was amazingly rather maneuverable, as evidence by the Corkscrew Maneuver that was the Lancaster's primary defensive tactic when engaged by night fighters.  I don't think heavy bombers like the B-17 or B-24 could even attempt a Corkscrew Maneuver.

ack-ack

[icepac]

Lanc drones don't seem to have trouble with any vertical separation.

A gentle turn can lose them in the horizontal.

Still the best way to down HQ.

[surfinn]

Oh wow is AKAK ??? Manawar?

[Chalenge]

I was thinking the same thing.  I've played this game longer and a lot more than the OP has and I rarely see "Lanstukas" as much as the OP claims he does.  I guess it's just a case of youth embellishment.

On Freebird squad night (Tuesdays I think) follow them when they horde a vbase. Lancstukas without fail.

[RTHolmes]

46. Flying limitations
(iv) Bomb clearances angles:
   Diving .........30°
   Climb.........20°
   Bank..........10° (with S.B.C. 25°)

[Karnak]

A 30° dive is pretty steep actually.  I'd be surprised if most "dive bombing" attacks in Lancasters in AH exceed that.

[kvuo75]

exactly.

[The Fugitive]

A 30° dive is pretty steep actually.  I'd be surprised if most "dive bombing" attacks in Lancasters in AH exceed that.

I think what some are saying here, is just because it COULD doesn't mean it SHOULD.

How often did it happen in real life? Probably not all that often. I always looked at a hvy bomber as a level bomber, a light bomber as a dive bomber. That is the way most of the mission profiles ran, why not see it that way in the game? But to stop it you'd need a rule/restriction and we all know HTC isn't big on restrictions.

Kinda the same as "you COULD take a port with 30-40 guys, but SHOULD you?"   

[Lusche]

46. Flying limitations
(iv) Bomb clearances angles:
   Diving .........30°
   Climb.........20°
   Bank..........10° (with S.B.C. 25°)

A 30° dive is pretty steep actually.  I'd be surprised if most "dive bombing" attacks in Lancasters in AH exceed that.

That's my saying. And to illustrate what a 30° 'dive' means, I coincidentally have a screenshot of this B-29 of mine doing one:



I almost never see Lancs doing any 'dive bombing' steeper than this. Actually most times I hear "Lancstuka" over vox, it's just low level Lancs with a shallow 15°-20° 'dive'


It's just one of the myriad of exaggerations we come across in game chat and on the boards day after day.

[macleod01]

Snailman?

What were you doing Divebombing in a b29???

Just curious caus I really hope you hit that Tiger II

[Lusche]

Snailman?
What were you doing Divebombing in a b29???

No, all bombs had been dropped in a very conventional manner on strategic targets long before that picture was taken.