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Offline Karnak

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Re: Stopping Lancstukas.
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2013, 04:42:26 PM »
actually while i was in the mid war a few months ago i saw the most ridiculous thing i have ever seen a Lancaster did a loop and i was going to send the film in so see if they can fix it but i have a habbit of not saving the damn films
As I recall, Lancasters could be looped.
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Re: Stopping Lancstukas.
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2013, 07:45:03 AM »
As I recall, Lancasters could be looped.
not like that like fighters do it looked like he pulled back hard
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Re: Stopping Lancstukas.
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2013, 08:20:56 AM »
not like that like fighters do it looked like he pulled back hard
I test flew the B-17G, B-29A and Lancaster Mk III in AH last night.  The Lancaster was by far the most manueverable of the three, but about the best you could say is it is halfway between the other heavy bombers and a fighter.  For example, it cannot fly inverted.

As to the loop, if it did it much slower it couldn't do it at all because it wouldn't have the speed to get over the top and would stall out.
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Re: Stopping Lancstukas.
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2013, 09:31:30 AM »
I test flew the B-17G, B-29A and Lancaster Mk III in AH last night.  The Lancaster was by far the most manueverable of the three, but about the best you could say is it is halfway between the other heavy bombers and a fighter.  For example, it cannot fly inverted.

As to the loop, if it did it much slower it couldn't do it at all because it wouldn't have the speed to get over the top and would stall out.
i dont understand it can you simplify it so early for me
 
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Re: Stopping Lancstukas.
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2013, 10:35:14 AM »
i dont understand it can you simplify it so early for me
 
If the Lancaster's elevator authority were modeled as being significantly worse than it is, it would take the Lancaster too much time to get over the top of the loop and it would stall out of the loop trying to climb to the top of the loop.
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Re: Stopping Lancstukas.
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2013, 10:44:05 AM »
Not the most relevant, I'll admit, but it might open some eyes here. :)

Lot of fun to watch anyway. I especially liked that snap roll which left the illusion as if the Tri-Motor was standing in the air. That snap roll reminds me of seeing them done by a C152 Aerobat. :)

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Re: Stopping Lancstukas.
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2013, 11:14:05 AM »
You could always shoot them down.  That would stop them.
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Re: Stopping Lancstukas.
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2013, 11:50:10 AM »
You could always shoot them down.  That would stop them.

Or bring a decent gunner in a wirb or osti, they have a field day with em.
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Re: Stopping Lancstukas.
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2013, 06:38:55 PM »
As I recall, Lancasters could be looped.

I read about a B-17 being looped for fun during the war.  I've been in the right seat while a guy was doing wingovers in the B-17...about 100-110 degrees of bank over the top.  I know a guy that was going to roll the B-17 but chickened out due to the horribly slow roll rate.
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Re: Stopping Lancstukas.
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2013, 06:45:02 PM »
Yeah, there seems to be a lot of misconceptions about how maneuverable heavy bombers were, or were not, in this thread.
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Re: Stopping Lancstukas.
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2013, 07:38:31 PM »
Yeah, there seems to be a lot of misconceptions about how maneuverable heavy bombers were, or were not, in this thread.

There seem to be a lot of misconceptions of how airplanes fly.   :devil
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Re: Stopping Lancstukas.
« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2013, 01:38:53 PM »
Or bring an awesome gunner in a wirb or osti, they have a field day with em.


Sounds like me  :lol

Seriously though, I understand the problem with lancstukas, but if you get rid of them I lose about 60% of my targets.  Learn how to aim!


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Re: Stopping Lancstukas.
« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2013, 02:49:00 PM »
There is an unbelievable amount of people going Stuka in their Lancs in game. Not only is this completely unhistorical, which the game isn't aimed at, but its also highly annoying when some idiot without any clue on how to use a bombsight downs a CV because he was able to dive straight down on it from 4k and hit it like his Lancs were SBD's or Ju-87's. What I suggest is that bombs are only able to be dropped in formation/single of bombers if you're in the bombsight. If you aren't the bombs cant be dropped and your attempt at downing a CV in a straight dive downwards is foiled.

That is all I ask for.

sorry to say but no differant than how 90% of the a/c are flown in this game, most time in r/l you would be in a body bag
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Re: Stopping Lancstukas.
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2013, 03:41:14 PM »
The chief maneuver of a Lancaster during WW2 was a DIVING.. CORKSCREW.

An empty Lancaster is basically 4 Hurricane 2's tied together with the added weight of turrets... Hence can turn tight. And run quickly. However without escort its pretty useless. 
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Re: Stopping Lancstukas.
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2013, 08:04:06 AM »
The chief maneuver of a Lancaster during WW2 was a DIVING.. CORKSCREW.

An empty Lancaster is basically 4 Hurricane 2's tied together with the added weight of turrets... Hence can turn tight. And run quickly. However without escort its pretty useless. 

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