Why are 163s so abundant in game?

[Copprhed]

Question...when only 269 Me163 Komets saw action out of only approximately 450 built, why are they SO readily available in game? The perk cost is so low, I really don't believe cost is sufficiently high so as to make how many are available realistic.

[Lusche]

AH was never intended to be a realistic recreation of WW2 - it just models the equipment, not necessarily the combat environment they were used in.
If we were looking for 'realistic' numbers, Me 163 would have to be taken out of the game. And not only them, but the Wirbelwind, Ostwind and the Ta 152H too - All of them were produced in much fewer numbers than the Me 163.


That being said, the Komet is not 'abundant' at all. It only is in one specific situation: When you push to the enemy HQ. If you don't do HQ raids (or furball withing one sector of an enemy HQ), you can almost totally avoid enemy Komet's for all of your AH career.

In all of 2012, the Me 163 had 0.24% of all fighter kills and deaths (rank 56 out of 68)

[Delirium]

The biggest reason is the fact that everyone has so many perks. They should reset on the accounts billing day, it might even encourage higher ENY aircraft to be flown more often.

[Volron]

The biggest reason is the fact that everyone has so many perks. They should reset on the accounts billing day, it might even encourage higher ENY aircraft to be flown more often.

More along the lines of, "will encourage people to go somewhere else, where they won't have to worry about their "perks" being reset every billing day."  Other than that, the only problem I would have with it is that it will keep me out of the B-29.  I don't get to fly as much as I wish, so don't rack up the perks anywhere as quickly as most of the peeps here.  I like to be able to just log in when I can, and up them if I wish.  Reset perks on billing day means that I won't have the perks to fly the 29 in...well, ever.  As I just mentioned, I don't get to log in as much as I like anymore.



As for the OP, 163's are hard coded with their 5 min fuel time.  What you see when you check the E6B isn't a 2x fuel burn.  On top of that, they are restricted to one of the unconquerable bases near the HQ.  The perk price for them is sound.  Any time you go near an enemy HQ, or on some of the smaller maps, the Capital, you WILL encounter 163's.  Now that strats have more of an impact, people are going to defend them.  For me, makes for a more interesting flight.   If 163's are making it difficult to reach/hit target, then take some countrymen along with you, or ask for a gunner while you are on your bomb run.

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More along the lines of, "will encourage people to go somewhere else, where they won't have to worry about their "perks" being reset every billing day."  Other than that, the only problem I would have with it is that it will keep me out of the B-29.  I don't get to fly as much as I wish, so don't rack up the perks anywhere as quickly as most of the peeps here.  I like to be able to just log in when I can, and up them if I wish.  Reset perks on billing day means that I won't have the perks to fly the 29 in...well, ever.  As I just mentioned, I don't get to log in as much as I like anymore.



As for the OP, 163's are hard coded with their 5 min fuel time.  What you see when you check the E6B isn't a 2x fuel burn.  On top of that, they are restricted to one of the unconquerable bases near the HQ.  The perk price for them is sound.  Any time you go near an enemy HQ, or on some of the smaller maps, the Capital, you WILL encounter 163's.  Now that strats have more of an impact, people are going to defend them.  For me, makes for a more interesting flight.   If 163's are making it difficult to reach/hit target, then take some countrymen along with you, or ask for a gunner while you are on your bomb run.

never knew that

[Wiley]

never knew that

Well, 5 minutes at full burn.  You can still throttle back and extend it and keep your takeoff cart to lame your way across the map, which is why you'll see the occasional one far from home.

Wiley.

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Well, 5 minutes at full burn.  You can still throttle back and extend it and keep your takeoff cart to lame your way across the map, which is why you'll see the occasional one far from home.

Wiley.

cc that.....I have only flown them a few times.... when I do I am fully De-throttled and only full throttle when climbing

tried the base jumping...but crashed every time 

[Volron]

Well, 5 minutes at full burn.  You can still throttle back and extend it and keep your takeoff cart to lame your way across the map, which is why you'll see the occasional one far from home.

Wiley.

I tried that once.  Was doing okay, till I hit a tree.   Boring as hell ferrying the damn thing to the front though.

[shdo]

The biggest reason is the fact that everyone has so many perks. They should reset on the accounts billing day, it might even encourage higher ENY aircraft to be flown more often.

they used to do this at one point in time.  most players wouldn't earn enough perks at the time to fly the perk planes that were available.  i want to say there were only a couple of perked rides but everybody wanted to try them and earning perks was much harder then that it is now.  why it was harder I really don't know but I do know you didn't start seeing the perked rides until halfway through the tour.

shdo

[Karnak]

they used to do this at one point in time.  most players wouldn't earn enough perks at the time to fly the perk planes that were available.  i want to say there were only a couple of perked rides but everybody wanted to try them and earning perks was much harder then that it is now.  why it was harder I really don't know but I do know you didn't start seeing the perked rides until halfway through the tour.

shdo

No, they never did that in the main arenas. It was done in the AvA for a bit though.

[Delirium]

you didn't start seeing the perked rides until halfway through the tour.

That is why I suggested using subscription dates, rather than resetting everyone on the first of the month, so this wouldn't happen. The cost for perk rides would probably drop as well, maybe as much as 1/4 of what they are now.

I'm of the opinion this will eventually happen, if for no other reason than to give players another time sink like the achievements are.

[Halo46]

The biggest reason is the fact that everyone has so many perks. They should reset on the accounts billing day, it might even encourage higher ENY aircraft to be flown more often.

Honestly, why do you care? Why should everyone fly planes or versions of planes you want them to fly? I say we should make it so that players can only fly a certain plane, say a P-38, five times and then they have to fly all other types of planes 5 times until they can fly the P-38 again... this way all the planes can be used equally. Is that okay with you? Honestly, why do people care so much about what other people fly when they only fly a certain plane set themselves? It sure isn't about using the entire hangar that's for sure. Agendas, everyone has one and they all stink! Wait, I think I forgot part of that saying... 

OP, because you can't reach the new 30K strat clowns or buzzards quickly in anything else unless you spend all day loitering up there. (Yes Lusche, a faulty generalization, but equally applicable.  )

[Delirium]

Agendas, everyone has one and they all stink!

It has nothing to do with an agenda; you can fly sub 10 ENY aircraft all day and still earn enough perks for a 262 in about 10 hours or less of total gameplay.

[Tec]

269!  Isn't that more than there were C-Hogs or 152s, and about on par with 3 gun LA7s?  I'd say we're getting overcharged.

[Lusche]

It has nothing to do with an agenda; you can fly sub 10 ENY aircraft all day and still earn enough perks for a 262 in about 10 hours or less of total gameplay.

The vast majority of players can only dream about getting 200 fighter perks in 10 hours.

After some cross checking of the data, I think it's only a tiny minority in the range  of 1-5% of the top pilots who can pull this off.  I would be very hard pressed to do it myself...