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Offline titanic3

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Re: Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?
« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2013, 04:10:53 PM »
Quote from: Scotch on January 30, 2013, 04:00:21 PM
This isn't unique to a 109 and is not so common as to be the key to getting any kill in a k4 as the poster and some others often suggest. I asked for him to answer because more than likely it's his perception of quick, but standard, over the top reversals. Which also aren't unique to k4's.

Nice acrobatics though.  :aok :airplane:
Here's my 152 helicopter kill. hehe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfOT6xjlTGs

More important is whether or not that was even possible in RL. I don't care much for it, since I don't think AH as a flight sim. But I do find it interesting though. I don't see even modern aerobatics planes doing moves like that.
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Re: Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?
« Reply #46 on: January 30, 2013, 04:14:11 PM »
Quote from: Changeup on January 30, 2013, 03:09:59 PM
How in the world did you get 25 noobs in 109's to fight you? :D

You keep that up and I'll pull out my I16 again......   :furious


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Re: Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?
« Reply #47 on: January 30, 2013, 04:16:35 PM »
Quote from: titanic3 on January 30, 2013, 04:10:53 PM
More important is whether or not that was even possible in RL. I don't care much for it, since I don't think AH as a flight sim. But I do find it interesting though. I don't see even modern aerobatics planes doing moves like that.

I agree completely. :aok
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Re: Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?
« Reply #48 on: January 30, 2013, 04:20:39 PM »
Quote from: Scotch on January 30, 2013, 04:00:21 PM
This isn't unique to a 109 and is not so common as to be the key to getting any kill in a k4 as the poster and some others often suggest. I asked for him to answer because more than likely it's his perception of quick, but standard, over the top reversals. Which also aren't unique to k4's.

Nice acrobatics though.  :aok :airplane:
Here's my 152 helicopter kill. hehe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfOT6xjlTGs

Was that an La-7 you kilt there?  Awesome shot!
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Re: Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?
« Reply #49 on: January 30, 2013, 04:25:16 PM »
Anyone remember when we had the 20mm Option in the G10, and the 30mm option in the G6?  It was great, if you sucked with the 30mm, you could still fly the "fast" 109 with a 20mm, and if you like the 30mm, but wanted stability and simpler characteristics, you could fly the G6 with a 30mm.  I really miss the 20mm option on the top tier 109, as I'm most un Grizz like with the 30mm. 
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Re: Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?
« Reply #50 on: January 30, 2013, 04:25:36 PM »
Quote from: tunnelrat on January 30, 2013, 04:20:39 PM
Was that an La-7 you kilt there?  Awesome shot!


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Re: Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?
« Reply #51 on: January 30, 2013, 05:11:56 PM »
Quote from: Changeup on January 30, 2013, 03:09:59 PM
How in the world did you get 25 noobs in 109's to fight you? :D

LOL, sorry bout that faux pas on my part... just amended that post after looking at my scores again!  :(

I can't remember what I was counting to get 23, it was really late when I looked at it the first time..... :uhoh
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Re: Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?
« Reply #52 on: January 30, 2013, 05:57:47 PM »
Quote from: Gman on January 30, 2013, 04:25:16 PM
Anyone remember when we had the 20mm Option in the G10, and the 30mm option in the G6?  It was great, if you sucked with the 30mm, you could still fly the "fast" 109 with a 20mm, and if you like the 30mm, but wanted stability and simpler characteristics, you could fly the G6 with a 30mm.  I really miss the 20mm option on the top tier 109, as I'm most un Grizz like with the 30mm. 

A 109G10 wouldn't be a bad addition. The 109K's engine, but with a hybrid G-14/K4 body.
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Re: Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?
« Reply #53 on: January 30, 2013, 06:03:59 PM »
Quote from: Reaper90 on January 30, 2013, 04:14:11 PM
You keep that up and I'll pull out my I16 again......   :furious


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Do it...cuz now the I-16 has made it on the HO list.  That list is:  Brewster Mark XXI with full afterburner, A6M5b Zeke with thinning airfoils for high speed diving, and the ME-262 1A CUZICAN
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Re: Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?
« Reply #54 on: January 30, 2013, 10:10:13 PM »
Quote from: Shane on January 29, 2013, 10:57:45 PM
they clipped it's gondies.   :furious  :cry

Oh... Never used those things anyway.
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Re: Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?
« Reply #55 on: January 31, 2013, 11:51:27 AM »
the k4 is way better as too many pilots who use it think of it as a 190 so they just try to hit and run  :bolt:.


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Re: Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?
« Reply #56 on: January 31, 2013, 12:13:25 PM »
In an effort to help settle this dispute, I decided to fly back to Dallas from Pitt early and drive by the Cavanaugh Flight museum at Addison Airport.  They have a Spanish 109F-4 because its better than both and I will speak to the curator, con him into letting me crack the cockpit open, sit in it, take photos, and post them here so that you all will be jealous.  I will include his opinion in my summary.

(This is the museum that helped HTC with the cockpit renderings and, if I'm not mistaken, some of the flight modeling or verification of it)

Be jealous.  Then, tonight I'm going to jump into the MA and kick your azzes.   :aok
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Re: Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?
« Reply #57 on: January 31, 2013, 01:18:46 PM »
Quote from: Changeup on January 31, 2013, 12:13:25 PM
 Then, tonight I'm going to jump into the MA and kick your azzes.   :aok
:aok :aok this is for sure.... you have been warned!
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Re: Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?
« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2013, 02:10:27 PM »
I'm here now beeeyatches....up first....the 109



The P40N


The Yak 3M



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Re: Which is better, the Bf109-G2, or the Bf-109-K4?
« Reply #59 on: January 31, 2013, 02:33:00 PM »
Quote from: Changeup on January 31, 2013, 12:13:25 PM
In an effort to help settle this dispute, I decided to fly back to Dallas from Pitt early and drive by the Cavanaugh Flight museum at Addison Airport.  They have a Spanish 109F-4 because its better than both and I will speak to the curator, con him into letting me crack the cockpit open, sit in it, take photos, and post them here so that you all will be jealous.  I will include his opinion in my summary.

The last Bf109F-4 was produced in May 1942. As the Cavanagh a/c was built in 1943, their a/c would be based on the Bf109G.
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