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Offline HighTone

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On the Next Vote
« on: February 03, 2013, 10:19:16 AM »
In hopes that one day HTC will give us another chance to vote, and with greater hope that my fellow Aces Highers won't blow that vote, I would like to purpose the following.


Next time a vote comes up I would like to see...

Anyone who is on the skinning team (or is a Skinner) gets 3 votes.

All CM's get 3 votes

All players that have had an active account for more than eight years get 2 votes.

All the rest of us get one 1 vote.


I would like to see this because I feel these players who are skinners, CM's, and long standing pilots have put the most into the game over the years and I feel have a better understanding of what we need in the future.


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Re: On the Next Vote
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2013, 10:49:00 AM »
In hopes that one day HTC will give us another chance to vote, and with greater hope that my fellow Aces Highers won't blow that vote, I would like to purpose the following.


Next time a vote comes up I would like to see...

Anyone who is on the skinning team (or is a Skinner) gets 3 votes.

All CM's get 3 votes

All players that have had an active account for more than eight years get 2 votes.

All the rest of us get one 1 vote.


I would like to see this because I feel these players who are skinners, CM's, and long standing pilots have put the most into the game over the years and I feel have a better understanding of what we need in the future.



What about AVA staff members?  Say 5 votes, maybe?
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Re: On the Next Vote
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2013, 10:54:43 AM »
And when it's still the 'wrong' plane that wins, you will come up with new voting rules again...  ;)
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Re: On the Next Vote
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2013, 11:09:33 AM »
HE-111 and JU-52 is my vote
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Re: On the Next Vote
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2013, 11:37:31 AM »
My vote would depend on what ends up on the list.

Last vote HTC did rig it by not putting any American aircraft on the list.  If the A-26 is on the next list, should there be one, it will almost certainly win unless, perhaps, the SB2C Helldiver divides the vote enough for something like the Yak-3 to slip through or the F7F or F8F is on the list.

What I would do in HTC's position is go ahead and put the A-26 into the aircraft to be added queue and then do another list of non-American aircraft to vote for. This way fans of the A-26s or American metal still get a toy and the vote doesn't have a preordained winner.

Suggested list:

Beaufighter
G.55
He111
J2M
Ju188
Ki-43
SM.79
Tu-2
Wellington
Yak-3
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Re: On the Next Vote
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2013, 12:05:10 PM »
My vote would depend on what ends up on the list.

Last vote HTC did rig it by not putting any American aircraft on the list.  If the A-26 is on the next list, should there be one, it will almost certainly win unless, perhaps, the SB2C Helldiver divides the vote enough for something like the Yak-3 to slip through or the F7F or F8F is on the list.

What I would do in HTC's position is go ahead and put the A-26 into the aircraft to be added queue and then do another list of non-American aircraft to vote for. This way fans of the A-26s or American metal still get a toy and the vote doesn't have a preordained winner.

Suggested list:

Beaufighter
G.55
He111
J2M
Ju188
Ki-43
SM.79
Tu-2
Wellington
Yak-3

All those country's are all ready in the game.... cept maybe the Aussie Dap Beaufighter
Okay..Add 2 Country's at once, Australia and France next plane update Add ...CAC Boomerang and the Dewoitine D.520

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Re: On the Next Vote
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2013, 12:33:42 PM »
What about AVA staff members?  Say 5 votes, maybe?

Sorry I missed that.

AvA staff members get 3 votes  :rock

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Re: On the Next Vote
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2013, 12:52:23 PM »
All those country's are all ready in the game.... cept maybe the Aussie Dap Beaufighter
Sorry, but no native Aussie aircraft merits addition before any of those, or a number of French aircraft.  The Aussie's were major contributors to Allied victory, but they did it in equipment built by the Americans and British.
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Re: On the Next Vote
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2013, 01:02:09 PM »
Perhaps another voting option might be to list 5 choices, and have people rank them in order 1 to 5 as which one they want to see next.   1st choice = 5 points, 2nd choice = 4 points and so on - just add up the points score and that will give you a better measure of relative popularity of plane vs plane over the entire user base.

I've seen this voting method done and it works well when you have a lot of people that have differing views, and maybe a "favorite" that they vote for all the time regardless of other choices.

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Re: On the Next Vote
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2013, 02:10:20 PM »
Sorry, but no native Aussie aircraft merits addition before any of those, or a number of French aircraft.  The Aussie's were major contributors to Allied victory, but they did it in equipment built by the Americans and British.

 Sorry.... but Yes Aussie aircraft! Just because you don't find the fight as interesting at the time in that part of the world, they didn't shoot as many folks, doesn't mean it wouldn't be good for the game. They built there own plane, squad strengths, bombed, strafed, re-coned, marked positions, and lead men and machines.  Their country is not represented in this game and should be. The Boomerang would be a great addition to the game.

The French .... Why add the French , I mean just because they were one of the 1st country's in the war, had some of the 1st air battles with the Germans,  that goes for nothing. They don't deserve anything. Right?
It's well past time to include them in the game with a French plane. Not some convoluted way to add another U.S. plane. the D-520 matches to the early canopy E-3 or E-4 time wize.


We have a Spit1,
We have the E-4

Where is the D-520?
 

We even have the I-16 <1934-42> and the B-239 <42 junk the U.S. got rid of> for gods sake.

Why not just add the 2 country's, 1 update ...1 ..."Boom ..Done" and then get back to arguing which planes to add to the existing country's already in the game.

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« Last Edit: February 03, 2013, 02:14:59 PM by Megalodon »
Okay..Add 2 Country's at once, Australia and France next plane update Add ...CAC Boomerang and the Dewoitine D.520

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Re: On the Next Vote
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2013, 02:12:56 PM »
My vote would depend on what ends up on the list.

Last vote HTC did rig it by not putting any American aircraft on the list.  If the A-26 is on the next list, should there be one, it will almost certainly win unless, perhaps, the SB2C Helldiver divides the vote enough for something like the Yak-3 to slip through or the F7F or F8F is on the list.

What I would do in HTC's position is go ahead and put the A-26 into the aircraft to be added queue and then do another list of non-American aircraft to vote for. This way fans of the A-26s or American metal still get a toy and the vote doesn't have a preordained winner.

Suggested list:

Beaufighter
G.55
He111
J2M
Ju188
Ki-43
SM.79
Tu-2
Wellington
Yak-3

or fix what we have???? :bhead
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Re: On the Next Vote
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2013, 02:26:19 PM »
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That has nothing to do with what I said.  You need to try to understand what people write, even when it isn't what you want to hear.

Yes, the Boomerang would be superior to the Spitfire Mk I and Bf109E-4 in many ways.  However, unlike the Spitfire Mk I and Bf109E-4, the Boomerang played a very minor role in WWII.  It is the second thing that matters here, not the first.  The Australians that contributed in the air flew in C-47s, P-40s, Beaufighters, P-51s, Mosquitos, Lancasters, F4Us, Hurricanes, Tempests, Spitfires and Typhoons. Compared to the Australians flying those aircraft the Australians who flew the Boomerang were small in number and small in contribution.
or fix what we have???? :bhead
That is a separate thing.  HTC has not ceased adding new units as they update older graphics models. There is no reason to expect that to change.
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Re: On the Next Vote
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2013, 02:31:24 PM »
That has nothing to do with what I said.  You need to try to understand what people write, even when it isn't what you want to hear.

Stuff

 I wasn't comparing the Boomerang to the spit or the e-4 read comprehension fail.

I don't agree with you ON HOW, WHY OR REASON to add a plane to the game. Your are not right.... your Wrong!

thats what you need to understand,
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Re: On the Next Vote
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2013, 02:59:42 PM »
I wasn't comparing the Boomerang to the spit or the e-4 read comprehension fail.

I don't agree with you ON HOW, WHY OR REASON to add a plane to the game. Your are not right.... your Wrong!

thats what you need to understand,
Your personal wants don't make it correct.  When I post a list like I did earlier I don't post my personal wants, I post what I think is best for the game from the overall perspective.  My personal want list looks very, very different.

I understand you really, really, really want the Boomerang for your own reasons.  That doesn't make it a good addition for the game. The world is not, in fact, our cupcake.
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Re: On the Next Vote
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2013, 04:26:37 PM »
Your personal wants don't make it correct.   I post what I think is best for the game from MY overall perspective.  
I understand you really, really, really want the Boomerang for your own reasons.  That doesn't make it a good addition for the game. The world is not, in fact, our cupcake.

 Well Dr. Karnak you failed again... I don't have a personal want list. I have a few skins I would like but that's it. I am glad to help when possible. I post for the same reason you do.

I believe adding the 2 countries grows the game's base. I would like to see more countries that participated  like Poland, Hungary, Romania, China added as well ...whether they had a ton of planes/tanks or not. They were there they participated and adding them grows the potential player base.  

Your hierarchic  tier.... because the planes should be garbage..... is getting old.

 Adding more plane/tanks to countries already in game does not make the base, the interest in the game, grow.  I can tell you many things that would be good for the game from my perspective ... just as you have done from yours.

I think having the early 51's would be good for the game and would most likely garnish more interest for the game than that list you have there.

Adding new country's grows the player base ....imho. :aok
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« Last Edit: February 04, 2013, 04:51:50 PM by Megalodon »
Okay..Add 2 Country's at once, Australia and France next plane update Add ...CAC Boomerang and the Dewoitine D.520