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Re: Coombz...this article in the right place?
« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2013, 07:13:01 PM »
Here's a thought. If it's all about procreation and the "survival of the species"... Should heterosexual couples that cannot, or chose not to procreate be equally stigmatized?
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Re: Coombz...this article in the right place?
« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2013, 07:16:37 PM »


Does us finding women attractive make us any better than them


Evolution has proven beyond any speculation that in the realm of survival (which is the only goal any species strives for) we are better!



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Re: Coombz...this article in the right place?
« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2013, 07:22:37 PM »

Evolution has proven beyond any speculation that in the realm of survival (which is the only goal any species strives for) we are better!



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Yay! We are better at procreation! Yay!

Now why do we need to stigmatize them? Do you feel it is equaly "right" to stigmatize heterosexual people who are unable to procreate?

We are so much better than them... That poor barren woman should be shunned, like the unbathed kid who sits in the back of the class eating her boogers.
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Re: Coombz...this article in the right place?
« Reply #48 on: February 05, 2013, 07:24:43 PM »
Just for clarification - this was approved by the UK Government, not the people of the UK - there is a difference.


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Re: Coombz...this article in the right place?
« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2013, 07:26:02 PM »
Here's a thought. If it's all about procreation and the "survival of the species"... Should heterosexual couples that cannot, or chose not to procreate be equally stigmatized?


you are using the word stigmatize as something bad or evil or unnatural.

Stigmatize : Describes or regards as worthy of disgrace or great disapproval.

I think in this case Evolution finds this meaning accurate. In fact Evolution is faaaaaaaar less kind to same sex couples, in fact I'd say evolution finds homosexuality disadvantaged  :aok and not only shunns it but outright destroys it over time. We, humans are the only thing that keeps this unnatural way of living at the forfront of society. If left to its own means (with no outside support of any kind) homosexuality would cease in one generation <--- this is what evolution has to say about the issue :aok



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Re: Coombz...this article in the right place?
« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2013, 07:29:59 PM »
Just for clarification - this was approved by the UK Government, not the people of the UK - there is a difference.


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Re: Coombz...this article in the right place?
« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2013, 07:34:07 PM »
Honestly, I don't think we should have gay 'mairrage', at least not yet. Now before you jump to conclusions, hear me out.

If you allow gay mairrage, you'll piss off a LOT of people, where as a 'domestic partnership', or whatever you wish to call it, is much more acceptable to the narrow minded. Give them all the same benefits of mairrage, so you get the change without causing a riot. After that, it would likely be a lot easier to accept a change of what the relationship is called, as opposed to 'giving' gay couples the right to mairrage.


Work around ignorance, don't try to fight it. You'll be a lot happier.


As to the discrimination, that will never end untill almost all gays stop trying to set themselves apart in any major ways. Its the 'look, we're different' message that elicits the 'oh hell no!' response. The same goes for any discrimination. The real fight isn't in getting equal rights, its in making what was once stigmatized become a normal and accepted fixture of society.


This is not to say that I don't think they should stand up for their rights, only that I think any and all militant, or even argumentative, attitude is far, far, FAR more detrimental than it is helpfull.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Coombz...this article in the right place?
« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2013, 07:34:09 PM »
Just for clarification - this was approved by the UK Government, not the people of the UK - there is a difference.


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This seems to be a trend


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Re: Coombz...this article in the right place?
« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2013, 07:34:56 PM »
Honestly, I don't think we should have gay 'mairrage', at least not yet. Now before you jump to conclusions, hear me out.

If you allow gay mairrage, you'll piss off a LOT of people, where as a 'domestic partnership', or whatever you wish to call it, is much more acceptable to the narrow minded. Give them all the same benefits of mairrage, so you get the change without causing a riot. After that, it would likely be a lot easier to accept a change of what the relationship is called, as opposed to 'giving' gay couples the right to mairrage.


Work around ignorance, don't try to fight it. You'll be a lot happier.


As to the discrimination, that will never end untill almost all gays stop trying to set themselves apart in any major ways. Its the 'look, we're different' message that elicits the 'oh hell no!' response. The same goes for any discrimination. The real fight isn't in getting equal rights, its in making what was once stigmatized become a normal and accepted fixture of society.


This is not to say that I don't think they should stand up for their rights, only that I think any and all militant, or even argumentative, attitude is far, far, FAR more detrimental than it is helpfull.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

"Once more unto the breach"

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Re: Coombz...this article in the right place?
« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2013, 07:35:08 PM »
I know why I will not practice homosexuality. Unfortunately, if I were to explain to some people why I believe it is a perversion I would be labled such things as a bigot, homophobe, old fashioned, or a BBS rule violator...so I'm going to leave it at that.
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Re: Coombz...this article in the right place?
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2013, 07:36:18 PM »
I know why I will not practice homosexuality. Unfortunately, if I were to explain to some people why I believe it is a perversion I would be labled such things as a bigot, homophobe, old fashioned, or a BBS rule violator...so I'm going to leave it at that.
"Lord, let us feel pity for Private Jenkins, and sorrow for ourselves, and all the angel warriors that fall. Let us fear death, but let it not live within us. Protect us, O Lord, and be merciful unto us. Amen"-from FALLEN ANGELS by Walter Dean Myers

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Re: Coombz...this article in the right place?
« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2013, 07:39:40 PM »
Just for clarification - this was approved by the UK Government, not the people of the UK - there is a difference.


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Th UK gov doesn't represent the people?
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Re: Coombz...this article in the right place?
« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2013, 07:41:24 PM »
I know why I will not practice homosexuality. I also know that I have no moral authority over other people. if I were to explain to some people why I believe it is a perversion I would be labled such things as a bigot, homophobe, old fashioned, or a BBS rule violator...so I'm going to leave it at that.
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Re: Coombz...this article in the right place?
« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2013, 07:53:53 PM »
... if I were to explain to some people why I believe it is a perversion...

It is a perversion. However, so is many heterosexual sex-acts that I really enjoy receiving, and giving. Perversion is fun!  :aok

In its most strictest sense, any sex-act not done specifically to procreate is a perversion.
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Re: Coombz...this article in the right place?
« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2013, 07:57:37 PM »
As to the discrimination, that will never end untill almost all gays stop trying to set themselves apart in any major ways. Its the 'look, we're different' message that elicits the 'oh hell no!' response. The same goes for any discrimination. The real fight isn't in getting equal rights, its in making what was once stigmatized become a normal and accepted fixture of society.

That is the case here now. Most gays you don't even realize are gay unless they're very effeminate.

Like I posted earlier, this is a gay man over here:

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