Lancasters spamcasters! This thread isn't about the lancaster, but since you insist!!!
These are clips from this article, posted a few days ago in General Discussion... go talk about lancs over there.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2159978/Brave-They-scared-witless-What-heroes-defying-fear-raid-terrifying-raid.htmlhttp://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,345824.0.htmlSometimes he peels away out of sight, and that’s the worst moment of all. All you can do is pray that he hasn’t dived below you and is coming back underneath with his guns blazing.The horror was waiting and not knowing, wondering if you were about to die. If an attack came, the skipper would throw the Lanc into a steep dive. The wings go down, the tail comes hurtling up. You go up, too, and then you plunge back down as the skipper pulls back on the stick and the plane climbs steeply in the opposite direction. The G-force clamps on your head like a ton of concrete. Your chin is pressed hard into your chest. And all the time you are still trying to fire at the enemy fighter on your tail.WHY DO LANCS GET F3 VIEW? THEY COULDNT SEE DOWN.And you know what happens next because you’ve looked out and seen it all before — seen other planes suddenly illuminated, then hit by shells from the ground. Balls of flame come from the engine, then from the fuselage, and you see it going down and down until it disappears into total blackness again.FIRES IN A LANC!!!I had three-quarters of my turret blown away by shellfire over Dortmund. After we limped home, I counted 200 holes in the aircraft.’
Why does the tail gunner not get killed so easily as in the stuka, 110, 410, ju88 AND 109s all seem to lose gunners (or pw) at first ping.
109s - THAT HAD BULLET PROOF FRAMED OUT FOR STRENGTH GLASS (like most bombers)
WHY DOES FLASHING THE LANC TAILS NOT KILL THE GUNNER? Lancs tails didnt seem to have such easy access as with other gunners from like on B-17s, B24s. Sooo if the gunner is getting killed and then another crew comes to man the gun instead...
then why does the same seconds I ping/flash all over the tail, the same seconds its firing back at me!In temperatures of minus-30, my breath froze into an icicle in front of me. I waited until it was three or four inches long before breaking it off.NO HEATER? LOL NO PRESSURIZED HEH lanc = generic! -30degrees... to fly lanc, you have to put computer and chair into a freezer at local food store where -30!
Celcius, Farenheit, or Kelvins, this is superduper cold!And what every man jack of them knew as they soared off into the skies was that, if your plane was hit, your chances of survival ranged from slim to zero. For every man who was able to parachute to safety (and usually into captivity, in itself not a desirable state), four didn’t make it out of their stricken planes.This in game? ONLY 1 of 5 lancs got out when bailing order decided (poor cramped access again)!
No bailing for lancs!More than 8,000 bombers were blown out of the sky or crash-landed.Number built (lancs from wikipedia) 7,377 Go figure.
Between 1939 and 1945, the RAF’s Bomber Command lost 55,573 airmen in battle, more than half its entire force. Its casualty rate was higher than any other section of the British armed services.Brave? They were scared witless. What made them heroes was defying that fear, raid after terrifying raid 939 and 1945, the RAF’s Bomber Command lost 55,573 airmen in battle, more than half its entire force. Its casualty rate was higher than any other section of the British armed services.
Is this the feeling players get when they up a lancaster? And these figures are for NIGHT BOMBING,
probably 90% losses if tried to bomb during day!Very much alive one minute, in the prime of life; very dead the next, shot down, wiped out, obliterated. The courage needed was breath-taking.This line doesnt say from any cause, this at start.
A direct hit by a shell would destroy a plane in mid-air, but most damage was caused by shrapnel slicing into the aircraft’s fuel and hydraulic lines, oil system or engines. And into its crew. (from ackack shells)
THEY SEEM A LIL BIT MORE BULLET PROOF THAT THIS IN GAME TO ME!Both the Lancaster and the He-177 were introduced in the year 1942.American fighters and planes of all types were in England at this time DEFENDING IT. No German fighters loitering around England airbases to vulch like USA fighters at German airbases!
In mid 1942, the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF) arrived in the UK and carried out a few raids across the English Channel.
Opperation Torch November 8–16 1942 AMERICA invades North Africa. Soon later, America in Italy - another front!
Besides Russian front... uhh, winter of 1942-1943... half of the German 6th army was in Stalingrad, and lost there! Yeah sure, compare Lanc's situation to He-177's... riiight!
AND America was supplying England since pre war! 50 destroyers to England, endless supplies to England even before the war! Before USA is declared in it!
Futhermore... Lancs were night bombing since the Battle for Britain! (from wikipedia)
The first RAF raid on Berlin took place on the night of 25 August 1940; 95 aircraft were dispatched to bomb Tempelhof Airport near the centre of Berlin and Siemensstadt, of which 81 dropped their bombs in and around Berlin,[8][9] and while the damage was slight, the psychological effect on Hitler was greater.SLIGHT DAMAGE! Lanc at night couldnt hit anything but a city if that! (lights out)
Think they were scared and doomed at night? They'd have been masacred during the day!!!
Take the F3 view away, and make the tail gunner killable... then fighter has lunch with only the bb's while the top turret cant do anything!Don't judge the He-177 by the conditions it was in!
Mr Hitech, Mr Pyro, PLEASE tear down this wall! put He-177 in and have 'Luftcriers!' :*)***
