Python as "first fluent language"?

[Perrine]

Anyone here with insights regarding Python program?  I wonder if there's money to be made by being "fluent" in just one language, such as Python.  

The "money" portion is not the end-all, but I'm willing to test & play it out as a hobby while not playing Aces High or World of Tanks; but If I do end up mastering Python I sure would like to see hours of my "free time" to learn that program converted to $$$  

I'm thinking about getting back into computer programming... it's been ~8 years since I took computer programming class back in high school (11th grade) I remember going over in class the "basics" of VisualBasic... such as the if/then/else "statements" and making GUI's of Windows (I think it was in NT environment) and that's it.

I know people are expected to be married and starting raising kids in their mid 20s... but it looks like I'm an outlier in that department, thus l'm picking up a new hobby or skill.

[quig]

Well, since corporations figured out that they can get free slave labor via coders under the adage "Free as in beer". and then make money by providing support services to code they've never touched or contributed to under that wonderful GPL license...

Good luck with your python endeavors.

[Meatwad]

And here I thought this was a thread about Monty Python type speaking

[Dragon Tamer]

Well, since corporations figured out that they can get free slave labor via coders under the adage "Free as in beer". and then make money by providing support services to code they've never touched or contributed to under that wonderful GPL license...

Good luck with your python endeavors.

I heard rumors that's how HTC gets programers... but they use sheep instead of beer.

And here I thought this was a thread about Monty Python type speaking

As was I... I'm a bit disappointed now... 

[zack1234]

I thought this thread was going to be about "Monty Python"

[Meatwad]

It can be

[Mickey1992]

I have been a programmer for the same company for nearly 20 years.  In that time I have programmed in....

DOS
Visual Basic
PowerBuilder
Crystal Reports
Alphablox
Lotus Notes
Java
WebFOCUS
Javascript
SQL

More than half of those languages/products are no longer being used at my company.  Being "fluent" in any one language is a desired skill and may very well lead to a job position somewhere, but chances are in the dynamic world of IT that there will soon be a day when that skill is no longer desired (at least at that company).

Being fluent in one computing language is better than being mediocre in a half dozen others, however it might be more difficult to find a job specializing in that one language.

[jeffdn]

I don't think you have to be fluent in just one language. I've been writing C (my first love) and C++ (a bit more realistic love) for ten years. About six months ago I decided to give Python a shot. It is incredible. I picked it up for the most part in a week, and now feel entirely comfortable writing in it. There is also a very interesting paradigm when it comes to writing it. I think you should read this:

https://python-guide.readthedocs.org/en/latest/

[Dragon Tamer]

I don't think you have to be fluent in just one language. I've been writing C (my first love) and C++ (a bit more realistic love) for ten years. About six months ago I decided to give Python a shot. It is incredible. I picked it up for the most part in a week, and now feel entirely comfortable writing in it. There is also a very interesting paradigm when it comes to writing it. I think you should read this:

https://python-guide.readthedocs.org/en/latest/

Some university somewhere did a study into language and it seems that every time you learn a new one, it makes the next language you learn a little easier. This should hold true for programing as well, even though it's not a spoken language, it has similar rules to a spoken language.

[bcadoo]

Being fluent in any programming language doesn't make you a good programmer.

[jeffdn]

Being fluent in any programming language doesn't make you a good programmer.

This is also important to remember. You can have a great vocabulary, but if you have awful grammar, you will still be considered a poor writer. Same basic theory applies here. Programming in general, regardless of the language used, has many of the same concepts. When you are fluent in the way that programs should be written, you simply choose the best tool (language) for the job.

[B3YT]

my girl friend is a programmer and most uni graduates are worthless , she spends more time correcting errors than anything else . Mostly memory drains ( i think) . The best coders in her company are like herself , self taught .   

[Dragon Tamer]

my girl friend is a programmer and most uni graduates are worthless , she spends more time correcting errors than anything else . Mostly memory drains ( i think) . The best coders in her company are like herself , self taught .   

No matter how good you get with programing there are always going to be errors. The longer the code is the greater the odds.

I haven't done too much with high level languages, but I do program microcontrollers in assemble quite a lot. It's an absolute nightmare when I make a mistake in there. The device will still sort of work but will often go off and do something unexpected with no explanation as to why.

[B3YT]

This is not little mistakes but Massive re-writes of code . last month her team spent 3 weeks trying to sort out a short program that another team (all university degree holders) completely botched up . It all looked pretty but it none of it worked  when put together .  It got to the point she wanted to jack in her job . 

[ozrocker]

And here I thought this was a thread about Monty Python type speaking

Ditto



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