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Re: Bloody Romans
« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2013, 12:06:47 PM »
I take very good care of my teeth, I keep them under my pillow at night :old:
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Re: Bloody Romans
« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2013, 02:52:21 PM »
Ink...

Alphabet does not equal language. Alphabet is just the character set. Whether you use the Latin alphabet or the FUTHARK, the English language is still the English language. It has no influence on grammar, vocabulary, morphology, etc.

Motherland:

Unfortunately, English grammar got royally screwed up by the influx of Norman French to the point that it's lost most of what it had in common with the other Germanic languages. Word order in most Germanic languages doesn't usually matter because of how words are conjugated. Dative, Genetive, and Nominative all have different endings so phrases still make sense regardless of the word order. Modern English loses all of those case endings. Oh, and then there's how articles and verbs have to agree with the case and number (singular/plural) of the word to which they belong (good god, there's about a thousand ways of conjugating "the" in German. Die, das, der, den, dem...  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:). That's not even getting into word gender, which other Germanic languages retain but Modern English drops...

I am not a wordalogist but.....looking at the way they were pronounced......is damn close to how we do....

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Re: Bloody Romans
« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2013, 02:58:03 PM »
Romans.  Hmm.  I dunno but I have a cool story, bro.  I went to college with a guy form Bulgaria and I was taking him back to my hometown via some country back roads and said to him "these roads are a bit rough, but they are fun."  His reply was, "there are no rough roads in America. Come to Bulgaria where we are still driving over bridges the Romans built and I will show you rough roads." 

That puts a perspective on things.   :)

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Re: Bloody Romans
« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2013, 03:14:39 PM »
They have potatoes in Bulgaria and large stones :old:

Someone in Northern Bulgaria once had a large cabbage :old:
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Re: Bloody Romans
« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2013, 06:08:20 PM »
Ink,

The letters of the latin alphabet represent certain sounds and when it is applied to other languages that remains true.  It doesn't matter if it is Latin, English, Hindi or Japanese.  That being true does not make Japanese related to Latin.

Recall that the first book published in English (Middle English) was Chaucer's Canterbury Tales at the end of the 1300s.  The Latin alphabet was just adapted to English, and other Germanic languages, because it was already well tested and versatile.
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Re: Bloody Romans
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2013, 03:22:05 AM »
Hmm and breK up with cleo. I want her to be MINE! :devil
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Re: Bloody Romans
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2013, 07:21:28 AM »
I am Julius Ceasar :old:
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Re: Bloody Romans
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2013, 05:03:54 PM »

Motherland:

Unfortunately, English grammar got royally screwed up by the influx of Norman French to the point that it's lost most of what it had in common with the other Germanic languages. Word order in most Germanic languages doesn't usually matter because of how words are conjugated. Dative, Genetive, and Nominative all have different endings so phrases still make sense regardless of the word order. Modern English loses all of those case endings. Oh, and then there's how articles and verbs have to agree with the case and number (singular/plural) of the word to which they belong (good god, there's about a thousand ways of conjugating "the" in German. Die, das, der, den, dem...  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:). That's not even getting into word gender, which other Germanic languages retain but Modern English drops...
Practically all European languages retain grammatical gender, that's not something that only makes English unique from Germanic languages and certainly not something it gets from French.
English grammar has certainly changed over the centuries but it's largely become more simplified and just lost a lot of features- obviously most notably grammatical gender and noun declensions among the various cases are simplified/absent- but you'd be hard pressed to say it's gotten significantly more Latinized outside of vocabulary, and even in that case the most common English words are Germanic in origin whereas it's mostly the 'flowery' words in our language that come from French and Latin.
And while I can't speak for the whole of Germanic languages, word order in German is certainly pretty strict just as it is in English, which is pretty logical considering that it is not nouns themselves (by a large part) that are declined for case, but articles and adjectives which aren't always present. Compare this to a Slavic language such as Russian which has a very complex declension system- wherein the nouns themselves are actually declined (and there are no articles in the first place) have word orders that are actually very sparse in comparison.

I am not a wordalogist but.....looking at the way they were pronounced......is damn close to how we do....

America is the revived Roman empire....it is also the Beast from the Earth. 
English uses an adapted version of the Latin alphabet, just like every other European language, and like practically every language that didn't have a written form before it was colonized by Europeans. Even Cyrillic is a (very) adapted mash up of the Greek and Latin alphabets.  But other than the Romance languages (Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese...) all of them evolved separately from Latin- English is not from Latin, Finnish isn't even Indo-European, and Vietnamese isn't even spoken on the European continent, yet they all use adaptations of this very malleable alphabet.

Romans.  Hmm.  I dunno but I have a cool story, bro.  I went to college with a guy form Bulgaria and I was taking him back to my hometown via some country back roads and said to him "these roads are a bit rough, but they are fun."  His reply was, "there are no rough roads in America. Come to Bulgaria where we are still driving over bridges the Romans built and I will show you rough roads." 

That puts a perspective on things.   :)


I had a friend that was an exchange student from Germany who one day told us, "now I know why your speed limits are so low- it doesn't have to do with anything else, but if you drove as fast on your highways as you can on the Autobahn, your car would fall apart".
Puts a different perspective on things