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bf109g-14 stall training video
« on: February 28, 2013, 06:42:31 PM »
I made this training video on what I'm calling a stall snap roll.The video is pretty simple,i sent it to some trainers before i listed it here to get there over all approval,two said its fine ,one never responded and one said they would get back to me.So that is good enough i guess.Hope i explain this okay (I'm new at this)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHetuuQuSKA


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« Last Edit: February 28, 2013, 07:32:10 PM by Sunka »
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Re: bf109g-14 stall training video
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2013, 12:31:06 AM »
Is this move exclusive to the 109-series due to their torque and aerodynamics? Is it possible in all higher torque planes, or even all (single engine) planes?

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Re: bf109g-14 stall training video
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2013, 01:05:25 AM »
Is this move exclusive to the 109-series due to their torque and aerodynamics? Is it possible in all higher torque planes, or even all (single engine) planes?

There are a few planes with decent torque in the prop,but don't have the vented flaps which i (think) helps ,and also do not have the turn radius.The only bird i seen or herd of this being done is the 109.

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Re: bf109g-14 stall training video
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013, 06:15:04 AM »
There are a few planes with decent torque in the prop,but don't have the vented flaps which i (think) helps ,and also do not have the turn radius.The only bird i seen or herd of this being done is the 109.

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I'll have to play with it and find out! Will report back. :salute

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Re: bf109g-14 stall training video
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2013, 09:37:42 AM »
Is this move exclusive to the 109-series due to their torque and aerodynamics? Is it possible in all higher torque planes, or even all (single engine) planes?

The 109's seem to do it more cleanly than most anything else.

Nice video.  Even if it is German.   :neener:
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Re: bf109g-14 stall training video
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2013, 01:42:49 PM »
Nice video.  Even if it is German.   :neener:
Best way to learn to beat em is learn to fly em.:D

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Re: bf109g-14 stall training video
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2013, 10:25:54 PM »
Very nice video...great flap info. Good sound..and no music...thank god. Music in training videos is bad.

The correct label for what you are showing is a "Torque Roll"

Good display of using it in a rolling scissor.

The holy grail of this move is in the pure vertical. Plane at 75 deg nose up or more...to a power off stall...flaps....power on to turn the the plane over to the left and left rudder to swing the nose to guns.

There is also a variation of using full RIGHT rudder in the vert with full engine power...power on stall and then WEP to roll over....and easing the rudder to control the drop of the nose to guns. Normally you would drop flaps AFTER the turn and get the nose up first then to the POWER OFF stall.

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Re: bf109g-14 stall training video
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2013, 08:46:24 AM »
Very nice video...great flap info. Good sound..and no music...thank god. Music in training videos is bad.

The correct label for what you are showing is a "Torque Roll"

Good display of using it in a rolling scissor.

The holy grail of this move is in the pure vertical. Plane at 75 deg nose up or more...to a power off stall...flaps....power on to turn the the plane over to the left and left rudder to swing the nose to guns.

There is also a variation of using full RIGHT rudder in the vert with full engine power...power on stall and then WEP to roll over....and easing the rudder to control the drop of the nose to guns. Normally you would drop flaps AFTER the turn and get the nose up first then to the POWER OFF stall.

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Ty Agent    :aok.
Damn!!!   :furious  Torque Roll!!! that's much better then Stall Roll.
Well i cant change what i call it in the video ,but i did put it in description on you tube.
Sure i show my noobness with the 109   :lol
One day I'll be a vet at her,cause i sure have fallen in love.

I love the guys who can do this in the full vert and not die,judging your openintents E is a major factor.
And i always thought music videos where more "look at me" vids,training videos i don't think should be full of music.

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Re: bf109g-14 stall training video
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 12:07:34 PM »
Vented flaps? Are you talking about the radiator flaps?

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Re: bf109g-14 stall training video
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 05:43:41 PM »
Vented flaps? Are you talking about the radiator flaps?
A radiator vents hot air, thus a vent flap.Thought that was pretty clear.
Ty for your comment pervert.


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Just so ya all know this is one of the places along with wiki that i got my flap info.
http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/techref/systems/cooling/f_flaps.htm
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Re: bf109g-14 stall training video
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2014, 07:28:14 AM »
I was asked to bump this thread.

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Re: bf109g-14 stall training video
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2014, 07:43:51 AM »
Great video Sunka! The Yak I think is also a very great plane at this kind of maneuver as well. Just like the 109s the Yaks have some pretty intense engine torque as well. The only difference is the Yak's torque is to the right whereas the 109's is to the left.

I love how the 109 can use one of its major weaknesses, it's engine torque, as one of it's major strengths as well!  :aok


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Re: bf109g-14 stall training video
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2014, 06:21:41 PM »
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Re: bf109g-14 stall training video
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2014, 08:41:51 PM »
Did not had an idea that the 109s had this tricky radiator flap system.
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