Destroy a plane yet no kill or assist

[FLOOB]

You shoot the wing off of a plane. The plane hits the water breaking a bunch of other parts off yet not hard enough to kill the pilot and as you fly right over the top of the wingless, tailless floating junk that used to be an airplane the pilot ends sortie. But you get no kill, even though by all standards except this game's you shot him down and destroyed an enemy aircraft. Now that's some jive bellybutton stuff. Boooo.

[Ripley]

if this happened inside his country's dar ring then he gets credit for a ditch in friendly territory, and that doesnt count as him being shot down (feel free to correct me if I am misunderstanding the mechanics here)

Now if he was outside his dar ring you should by all means get credit for the kill.

[The Fury]

How about when you blow a plane up and still get no kill or assist then? been happening to me a fair bit since my return.

[Ripley]

I have seen that happen too, that one is very frustrating.

[FLOOB]

If you destroy/sink an enemy airplane it should count as a kill regardless of where it happens on the map. Not that it should matter, but he ditched within the dar ring of my country's base and within the dar ring of his country's aircraft carrier.

[Lusche]

Now if he was outside his dar ring you should by all means get credit for the kill.

Not that it should matter, but he ditched within the dar ring of my country's base and within the dar ring of his country's aircraft carrier.

Just to clarify: The dar ring does not matter. It only depends on the ownership of the closest base. Thats's why you can get a ditch well outside your own radar ring as well as a "captured" inside your own side's radar ring.
In this case the enemy was simply going down on a point closer to his CV than your base.

[Sunka]

How about when you blow a plane up and still get no kill or assist then? been happening to me a fair bit since my return.

Me to.
This never happend  two years ago but when i came back about a year ago this happens ALL the time.Wish they would admit there is an issue and fix it.

[Lusche]

Wish they would admit there is an issue and fix it.

To "admit" an issue you must know about it first. I suppose you have sent in the films?

[tunnelrat]

My tertiary whine is that all too often I absolutely smash a plane that has no visible (at least from D200) damage, tear it to pieces, and get an assist.

I guess it's just been one of those tours so far, but nailing a plane that is perfectly capable of fighting with a 37mm and getting an assist is pants.

[Sunka]

To "admit" an issue you must know about it first. I suppose you have sent in the films?

Players have been complaining on game for a long time ,if they don't know about it they need to spend more time around the actual game.

[Lusche]

Players have been complaining on game for a long time

Players complain about a lot of things, many of them not happening the way the players claim.
Somewhat more substance is always helpful, such as a bug report (in the proper forum) with a lot of more details, or most preferable: a film, which would actually show if there is an issue or not.

[Sunka]

Players complain about a lot of things, many of them not happening the way the players claim.
Somewhat more substance is always helpful, such as a bug report (in the proper forum) with a lot of more details, or most preferable: a film, which would actually show if there is an issue or not.

Right on.  

[Ripley]

Just to clarify: The dar ring does not matter. It only depends on the ownership of the closest base. Thats's why you can get a ditch well outside your own radar ring as well as a "captured" inside your own side's radar ring.
In this case the enemy was simply going down on a point closer to his CV than your base.

Good to know, thanks for clarifying!

[Pand]

If you're under 150 mph, and minimal decent rate, you can easily set the plane on the ground for a ditch. 

You'll see this a lot around bases being vulched as people will shoot my wing off at 100mph+ with me less than 20 feet off the ground.  In most cases, if you can keep it nose high you'll slide to a stop and be able to exit.

Solution, don't stop firing until the enemy has exploded.   

[Skuzzy]

As an example, if you vulch someone who is still rolling down the runway and they simply tumble around and manage to survive to .ef from the plane and end the sortie, you will not get a kill nor an assist.  That is to say, if a pilot can manage to 'ditch', then the player(s) who was/were shooting at him will not get anything for that effort.

To get the kill credit, you have to be the one who did the most damage to a plane, at the time the plane reaches its critical level of damage.  To get an assist, you did less damage than someone else, while the plane had not reached its critical level of damage.  To all of that, the pilot of the damaged airplane cannot manage to ditch.

A plane may still be in the air after reaching its critical level of damage.  A pilot firing at a plane which has reached its critical level of damage will not be awarded anything, regardless of all other criteria.

If you feel your kill/assist falls within the current requirements, feel free to send us a film of that sortie.