Destroy a plane yet no kill or assist

[Pand]

Exactly. You don't need to be killed to give someone a kill.

Think of it as your country being able to recover the aircraft (or what's left of it).   If your aircraft is in friendly territory and recoverable, then you did not award a kill to an enemy.

[FLOOB]

If you end flight on the ground while in the plane (ditch) you will get a you have ditched message if you are on the ground ditched and exit the plane ( hit enter ) you will get X X  player shot you down

Nope. If you ditch and .ef near an enemy base, and there is an enemy near, and or your plane has been shot and the shooter is still alive = player shot you down.

[FLOOB]

Pand read the statement that I was responding to. You're trying to tell me the same thing I'm trying to tell someone else.

[The Fugitive]

Maybe that explains it, I spend most of my time defending at a friendly base so if I'm not killed I get ditches. Happens quite often. I can't remember the last time someone got a kill on me when I ditched.

[Nathan60]

Maybe that explains it, I spend most of my time defending at a friendly base so if I'm not killed I get ditches. Happens quite often. I can't remember the last time someone got a kill on me when I ditched.

So.. you're an ack hugger?     .  HOw far out is friendly? Does that include an area around the gv spawns or are they not factored in atall?

[bj229r]

I'm confused. What exactly did I type in that quote that you disagree with?

mine's more an RL thing--you placed emphasis on wrecking the plane, irrespective of the pilot. In fact, the pilot was far more important

[FLOOB]

mine's more an RL thing--you placed emphasis on wrecking the plane, irrespective of the pilot. In fact, the pilot was far more important

I didn't place emphasis on anything. I said that in wwII, victories were awarded for destroying airplanes not pilots. Didn't matter if the vanquished pilot bailed, died or sprouted wings, the victor still got a kill on his record.

[MK-84]

I have a question about getting credit for a kill when the enemy ditches.  I put rounds into an enemy and he ditches, sometimes I get the kill, more often I do not.  When I do get credit is that because he received critical damage?  In either instance my opponents are successful in crash landing and exiting from flight.

[bj229r]

You may be misunderstanding, it's normal for a pilot to get credited with a kill when his target ditches in aces high no matter if the ditched pilot lived or died. I don't care about what happens to the ditched pilot, that isn't the issue here. The issue is shooting down a plane and not getting credit for it. If you pluck the wings off of a plane and it splashes down in the ocean, that's a kill in everybody's book. In aces high we're awarded kills for destroying planes, not pilots. Why? Because that's the way it was in WWII.

Hence, my 'disagreement'

[bj229r]

I have a question about getting credit for a kill when the enemy ditches.  I put rounds into an enemy and he ditches, sometimes I get the kill, more often I do not.  When I do get credit is that because he received critical damage?  In either instance my opponents are successful in crash landing and exiting from flight.

As explained elsewhere, it hinges on WHERE this happens. GV's seem to be an entirely different set of rules though

[coombz]

Has anyone told FLOOB that we're not really in WWII, and this is actually just a computer game?  

[BigR]

For those of you who are relatively new here, the reason they implemented the "critical damage" feature was to eliminate people from shooting at wingless airplanes as they fell to the ground and stealing the kill from the person who did the kill shot. The way the model used to work, you could take someone's wing off and their plane would be un-flyable, but if someone came along and killed the pilot, or did a ton of damage to other parts of the plane before the plane hit the ground, they would get the kill because they technically did more damage even though the plane already had catastrophic damage. This is not a new issue that you just discovered...its been looked at and they have implemented their solution. Might not be perfect, but I bet you have ended up with many kills that would have otherwise been stolen from you in the past. It all evens out in the end.

[Crash Orange]

I said that in wwII, victories were awarded for destroying airplanes not pilots. Didn't matter if the vanquished pilot bailed, died or sprouted wings, the victor still got a kill on his record.

In WWII, if they were fighting over enemy territory, they had no way of knowing whether the vanquished pilot bailed, died or sprouted wings.

A lot of things about our scoring system are different from WWII. Not that there was any uniformity in the war - how many kills were awarded for downing a multi-engine bomber? If four pilots all shoot a plane and it goes down is that .25 kills for each pilot or one kill for one of them? (And IIRC the Japanese didn't even officially award or track kills for individual pilots.)

[FLOOB]

Hence, my 'disagreement'

Well that is how kills were awarded in WWII, you understand that it's not my opinion right? I'm confused because you typed this.

Disagree-- by 1945, Axis had plenty of good aircraft, but no trained pilots to fly them, nor extra gas to train noobs...losing the plane was inconsequential

As if I had typed something that disputed this.

[FLOOB]

In WWII, if they were fighting over enemy territory, they had no way of knowing whether the vanquished pilot bailed, died or sprouted wings.

A lot of things about our scoring system are different from WWII. Not that there was any uniformity in the war - how many kills were awarded for downing a multi-engine bomber? If four pilots all shoot a plane and it goes down is that .25 kills for each pilot or one kill for one of them? (And IIRC the Japanese didn't even officially award or track kills for individual pilots.)

Invisible parachutes? How could they all be fighting over enemy territory? Think about it. Yes I'm aware of the nazi point system for dicke autos. And partial kills are awarded in aces high, it's called assist. If your point was that aces high point scoring system is not the same as any one countries WWII point system, then I'm not sure why you felt that you needed to make it, because everybody knows that and it's not really relevant to the topic.