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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #75 on: March 07, 2013, 10:30:52 PM »
If its the same as what the KI-84 has in the cowl it will be fine.  Great? No, but its a saddle up type plane anyway.  Racking up multiple kills will take some work and staying on target long enough to do damage when theres a lot of cons around will require good SA, but its rounds don't bounce off  :D

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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #76 on: March 07, 2013, 10:57:45 PM »
Concerning explosive rounds:

Aren't the US .50cal already modeled with the API round? So wouldn't the explosive round for the Ki-43 not make much difference in firepower anyway?
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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #77 on: March 07, 2013, 11:44:01 PM »
Are there any advantages to the Mg 131, or is it just an inferior weapons system?

Lighter round, lower velocity, no ROF advantage. Seems like it kinda has nothing going for it.
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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #78 on: March 07, 2013, 11:55:53 PM »
Nice plane but what's with the clothes line stretching from front to back? Is that so the pilot can hang his soiled undies out to dry?

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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #79 on: March 08, 2013, 12:26:27 AM »
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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #80 on: March 08, 2013, 12:57:57 AM »
So the wings really were that thick or not? :headscratch:


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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #81 on: March 08, 2013, 01:49:18 AM »
So the wings really were that thick or not? :headscratch:

Not. Looks like it needs fixing.

The vast majority of aces in the IJAF became so flying the Ki-43.  It was the primary fighter of the IJAF for almost the entire war and shot down more Allied planes than any other Japanese fighter.  Not having the Ki-43 in Japanese plane set would be like not having the P-51 for the US plane set.  It's not a wasteful wish, it plugs a serious hole in the Japanese plane set and for scenarios/FSO/AvA.

Here's the problem: Most IJAF aces made "ace" on the Ki-43-I, because it served from 1939 at the start of hostilities. The Ki-43-II only became active in 1943, and it was already being phased out by 1944. The -I had 3 years with which to rack up kills. Problem is the -I had a 2-blade prop and 975hp while the -II had 3-blade and 1105hp. The -I had less speed, less climb, and less overall performance than the -II had. As far as FSOs and scenarios, we already have 1943 MORE than covered. We've got all the major zekes, the Ki's (Ki-83 physically replaced Ki-43 on all but one plant's production lines, eventually). The reason we need the Ki-43 is for early war.

This isn't an early war Ki-43. So, we STILL don't have that P-51 so-to-speak. At least, in those screenshots and by HTC's description (using the -II in the title). Here's hoping they add the sorely-needed Ki-43-I.


EDIT: Oops, I got my start dates mixed up. The -I wasn't flying since 1939. It was late 1941 apparently.
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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #82 on: March 08, 2013, 02:07:23 AM »
Do the various versions all look basically the same physically or no?  If so, maybe getting a -I version wouldn't take too long from a modelling standpoint.  Of course, all the coad would be needed.  That would take a bit.
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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #83 on: March 08, 2013, 02:09:26 AM »
No, they had noticable cowling redesign to fit a larger engine. The cockpit was placed higher for better visibility. The wing was shorter for better speed at lower alts. There were many noticable changes. Not the least of which was a 2-stage supercharged engine that gave +20mph over the previous version.

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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #84 on: March 08, 2013, 02:12:02 AM »
Thankee for the info.
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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #85 on: March 08, 2013, 02:21:10 AM »
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rock

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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #86 on: March 08, 2013, 04:20:12 AM »
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rock

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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #87 on: March 08, 2013, 05:07:13 AM »
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rock

EXACTLY!  YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!!!

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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #88 on: March 08, 2013, 05:47:55 AM »
The Ki-43-II only became active in 1943, and it was already being phased out by 1944. The -I had 3 years with which to rack up kills. Problem is the -I had a 2-blade prop and 975hp while the -II had 3-blade and 1105hp. The -I had less speed, less climb, and less overall performance than the -II had. As far as FSOs and scenarios, we already have 1943 MORE than covered. We've got all the major zekes, the Ki's (Ki-83 physically replaced Ki-43 on all but one plant's production lines, eventually). The reason we need the Ki-43 is for early war.

Ki-43-II will be very very welcome addition for Events. Both IJAAF fighters currently in the game are 1944 aircraft. Ki-43-II first entered production in November 1942 and was the back bone of the IJAAF throughout 1943. Therefore it covers a year -size hole in the IJAAF fighters of AH. To get IJAAF plane set more viable during the mid-war period, earlier variants of the Ki-61 are also very welcome.


I think it could carry two 250kg bombs, but I am not certain of that.

Yep, 2x250kg bombs for Ki-43-II.
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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #89 on: March 08, 2013, 08:37:45 AM »
Are there any advantages to the Mg 131, or is it just an inferior weapons system?

Lighter round, lower velocity, no ROF advantage. Seems like it kinda has nothing going for it.
Weight:

MG131 13mm: 37lbs
Berezin UBS 12.7mm: 47.4lbs
Ho-103 12.7mm: 50.7lbs
Browning AN/M2 12.7mm: 61lbs
Breda-SAFAT 12.7mm: 64lbs
Type 3 13.2mm: 68lbs

(I had trouble finding the weight for the Browning AN/M2 .50 and I suspect that may be erring on the light side)
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