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Re: Spit16 Fly by Wire
« Reply #45 on: March 13, 2013, 07:11:08 PM »
No way anyone can control RL planes the same way we can in AH.

It's the other way around. We have a lower G limit in AH and no feel for how we're flying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNtjOb9DTYs

Film doesn't prove my point since we can't compare the model but the girl is having fun.

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Re: Spit16 Fly by Wire
« Reply #46 on: March 13, 2013, 07:14:19 PM »
Is there any record at all that WWII pilots did the same crazy maneuvers that we do? I see plenty of videos with modern aerobatic planes, but I haven't seen or read anyone doing it with an actual WWII plane. 

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Spit16 Fly by Wire
« Reply #47 on: March 13, 2013, 07:22:01 PM »
Is there any record at all that WWII pilots did the same crazy maneuvers that we do?  

Of course not. There's no chance a 20 year old kid would do anything he wasn't supposed to do just because he's out flying with his buddy in 2000 HP airplanes without supervision, but if he did, he'd certainly document it and report it so we'd all know about it.   :D

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Re: Spit16 Fly by Wire
« Reply #48 on: March 13, 2013, 07:24:33 PM »
Test pilots?  :angel:

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Spit16 Fly by Wire
« Reply #49 on: March 13, 2013, 08:21:45 PM »
Is there any record at all that WWII pilots did the same crazy maneuvers that we do? I see plenty of videos with modern aerobatic planes, but I haven't seen or read anyone doing it with an actual WWII plane. 

just because it wasn't often done does not mean it couldn't be done.....big difference..... :aok

those guys were fighting for their life...we on the other hand have no such worries.



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Re: Spit16 Fly by Wire
« Reply #50 on: March 13, 2013, 08:24:15 PM »
just because it wasn't often done does not mean it couldn't be done.....big difference..... :aok

those guys were fighting for their life...we on the other hand have no such worries.

Seems like the risk of death would result in more crazy-arse maneuvering to shake the guy off your 6, not less.



And as to the origional topic, it seems to me, admittely based on limited experience flying them but a fair bit fighting them, that the primary 'issue', if one could call it that, is relatively light control surfaces at relatively high speed.

By this I mean that even at the same speeds, a spitfire will have lighter controls than, say, a 109, or a C.205. Its entirely possible that this is just perception, as I have never done a direct comparison with a spitfire. I don't even know exactly how they determine the level, or even if they just let the physics model determine it based off of surface area, deflection of the control surface, air density, and speed.

Just my $0.02.
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You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Spit16 Fly by Wire
« Reply #51 on: March 13, 2013, 08:25:42 PM »
Seems like the risk of death would result in more crazy-arse maneuvering to shake the guy off your 6, not less.

ahh....if someone got on your 6....you were already dead. :aok

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Re: Spit16 Fly by Wire
« Reply #52 on: March 13, 2013, 08:49:46 PM »
just because it wasn't often done does not mean it couldn't be done.....big difference..... :aok

those guys were fighting for their life...we on the other hand have no such worries.




So during the whole time the plane was in development, not a single test pilot decided to push the plane to its limits?

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Spit16 Fly by Wire
« Reply #53 on: March 13, 2013, 09:17:12 PM »
So during the whole time the plane was in development, not a single test pilot decided to push the plane to its limits?
Of course they did, and sometimes they died doing it.

How many times have each of us pancaked or augered a plane in AH?  That is the last time you try anything in real life as you're bits scattered on the ground.
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Re: Spit16 Fly by Wire
« Reply #54 on: March 14, 2013, 04:57:33 AM »
That is the last time you try anything in real life as you're bits scattered on the ground.


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Re: Spit16 Fly by Wire
« Reply #55 on: March 14, 2013, 05:00:52 PM »
So during the whole time the plane was in development, not a single test pilot decided to push the plane to its limits?

obviously I was referring to combat sorties :rolleyes:

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Re: Spit16 Fly by Wire
« Reply #56 on: March 14, 2013, 08:13:19 PM »
I agree with Delirium, 16s are cannon fodder 99 percent if the time.  More annoying are 51s and Lalas that circle  the fight and show up as soon as I'm on someone. Hotard?
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Re: Spit16 Fly by Wire
« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2013, 08:28:39 PM »
I agree with Delirium,

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Re: Spit16 Fly by Wire
« Reply #58 on: March 14, 2013, 09:15:12 PM »
It's the other way around. We have a lower G limit in AH and no feel for how we're flying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNtjOb9DTYs

Film doesn't prove my point since we can't compare the model but the girl is having fun.

this one might put to rest "no person could handle the G's like that"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtpUhKSFcnc

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Re: Spit16 Fly by Wire
« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2013, 10:15:01 PM »
this one might put to rest "no person could handle the G's like that"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtpUhKSFcnc



Only watched 2 mins of that, torturous, its seems impossible he could retain control, let alone fly a routine.
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