P51 Test Results

[Paladin3]

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/mustangtest.html

Has anyone seem this? Anyone know what fuel they loaded for such tests?

[earl1937]

  The "standard" fuel load for the "D" model, after a visit to "IRAN", (inspection, repair as necessary), was 40 gallon in left and right main. Was told that was the standard loadout for a factory test flight after production, therefore it was carried over to test flights after IRAN. Can't be positive because of the different dash number engines, but I would venture a guess that it was probably the same.

[Megalodon]

try the links at the bottom of the page

[Paladin3]

Interesting. Seems that our P51 cannot make the trials to be accepted then.

[tunnelrat]

Interesting. Seems that our P51 cannot make the trials to be accepted then.

Where do you see a discrepancy?

(Not saying there isn't one, I just don't know the in-game bird well enough to pick it out on paper)

[morfiend]

Where do you see a discrepancy?

(Not saying there isn't one, I just don't know the in-game bird well enough to pick it out on paper)

  If you read carefully,you'll see most of the test shown are done with 150 Octane fuel at 72 inch MAP!

   Niether of our ponies will meet those speeds or climb because we use 100 Octane fuel and 67 in of MAP.




   

[bustr]

Thought it was 130oct 67Hg.

[morfiend]

Thought it was 130oct 67Hg.

  Bustr,I beleive we are both correct it would be 100/130,I guess I should have stated that.




   

[NZTyphoon]

The 1st 2nd and 3rd tests were run using ordinary 100/130 grade fuel or AN-F-28 to a maximum boost of 67 in Hg, although early tests showed 60.5 in Hg ( http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/V-1650-3-low-blower-curve.jpg )

4th to 7th were run using 104/150 grade or 44-L and boosts of 72 or 75 in Hg (eg: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/na-p51b-150grade-level.jpg )

The 8th test "Flight Test Engineering Branch, Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio 15 June 1945: Flight Tests on the North American P-51D Airplane, AAF No. 44-15342" is again using standard 100/130 grade fuel and maximum boost of 67 in Hg.

[morfiend]

The 1st 2nd and 3rd tests were run using ordinary 100/130 grade fuel or AN-F-28 to a maximum boost of 67 in Hg, although early tests showed 60.5 in Hg ( http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/V-1650-3-low-blower-curve.jpg )

4th to 7th were run using 104/150 grade or 44-L and boosts of 72 or 75 in Hg (eg: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/na-p51b-150grade-level.jpg )

The 8th test "Flight Test Engineering Branch, Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio 15 June 1945: Flight Tests on the North American P-51D Airplane, AAF No. 44-15342" is again using standard 100/130 grade fuel and maximum boost of 67 in Hg.

  This is why I said MOST and not all,however I hadnt noticed that the last test was done on 100/130,guess I should have looked more closely. I had assumed tests 4 through 8 were all on 150.


   

[Megalodon]

Tests are one thing.... What was available in the European Theater after April 44 for the 8th and 9th AF?

PPF,

[Paladin3]

It must be the fuel difference. The time to climb is off - I thought it might be due to the fuel load we use in the MA.

I really want the higher octane fuel. Of course then I also want other things that would get me shot for saying so around here 

[GScholz]

150 avgas could be made available as a perk option for the late-war allied planes. C3 perk fuel for the 109K would also be nice. Quality fuel for the Nippon rides too...

[Karnak]

150 avgas could be made available as a perk option for the late-war allied planes. C3 perk fuel for the 109K would also be nice.

While I would happily pay a perk price to have 150 octane in the Mossie, AH just isn't set up to do different flight models off of one selection in the hangar.  We'd need a perk listing for each aircraft as well as the current free listing.

Quality fuel for the Nippon rides too...

Unfortunately for the game, but fortunately in reality, the Japanese simply didn't have better fuel.  Calling it 87 octane is almost certainly generous.

[GScholz]

Yeah, but we know that their engines were made to take advantage of better fuels if it became available. As a perk option I think it would be nice to include a few "what ifs" in the MA. Any and all perk options should of course be possible to disable for scenarios. As for how the game handles perks options, that can be changed; all the data should be loaded into variables anyway, so a simple drop down menu should be enough to change which FM is loaded into the variables. I hope to one day see a more usable perk system were we get to chose engine options (fuel quality, ADI, NOS etc.), loadout options including perked "experimental" loadouts and "what ifs". Things that were tested, but didn't make it into (full) production for some reason or another.