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Offline mbailey

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Re: Is there a plane from...
« Reply #60 on: March 17, 2013, 02:52:47 PM »
If Ink gets a 4 cannon KI I'm going to quit.   :old:

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Re: Is there a plane from...
« Reply #61 on: March 19, 2013, 01:11:58 PM »
I tell you Ki-84otsu(equip Ho5 20mm x4 type) some information.

Ki-84otsu was produced.
But , Exactly number of produced was not found now.
but, we can estimate by Ki84kou's serial No.
Ki84-otsu was build in oota factory of Nakajima hikouki.
and serial No 101-2759 of Ki84kou were build in same place,too.
but last serial No of ki-84kou was 2676.
2759-2676 is 83.
83 is product No of ki84otsu.

and ,some pictures of ki84otsu is found,now.
we can know Ki84otsu was supplied to front line by this picture.
104sq in Manchuria,fought against USSR in last of war,used ki84-otsu.

and there was picture of Ki84otsu(serial No 3060,first Ki84otsu is 3001) captured by USAAF.

Ki84hei,equip Ho-155 30mm x2 and Ho-5 20mm x2, was build only 2.
These were prototype.

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Re: Is there a plane from...
« Reply #62 on: March 19, 2013, 11:37:30 PM »
I tell you Ki-84otsu(equip Ho5 20mm x4 type) some information.

Ki-84otsu was produced.
But , Exactly number of produced was not found now.
but, we can estimate by Ki84kou's serial No.
Ki84-otsu was build in oota factory of Nakajima hikouki.
and serial No 101-2759 of Ki84kou were build in same place,too.
but last serial No of ki-84kou was 2676.
2759-2676 is 83.
83 is product No of ki84otsu.

and ,some pictures of ki84otsu is found,now.
we can know Ki84otsu was supplied to front line by this picture.
104sq in Manchuria,fought against USSR in last of war,used ki84-otsu.

and there was picture of Ki84otsu(serial No 3060,first Ki84otsu is 3001) captured by USAAF.

Ki84hei,equip Ho-155 30mm x2 and Ho-5 20mm x2, was build only 2.
These were prototype.

Pkun, thank you for the update, do you have a link to the pictures?

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Re: Is there a plane from...
« Reply #63 on: March 19, 2013, 11:40:27 PM »
Ki84 is one of the most dangerous birds imho.


just keep that ki84 out of Ink's hands and it will not be so deadly  :devil
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Re: Is there a plane from...
« Reply #64 on: March 20, 2013, 02:29:46 AM »
not like the ki-84 isn't a spit 16 in drag already now you want tiffie hitting power? it's crazy I tell you.  Perk it!!!

Plus the amount of punishment it can take is unreal, its just a socaily acceptable spit 16  :D

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Re: Is there a plane from...
« Reply #65 on: April 04, 2013, 11:45:30 AM »
Pkun, thank you for the update, do you have a link to the pictures?

Tks

OK,I show you.
http://www.warbirds.jp/p-kun/other/ki84/ki84_104.jpg
This is picture is Ki84otsu of 104sq, run away from Manchuria.

http://www.warbirds.jp/p-kun/other/ki84/ki84_3060.jpg
This is picture is Ki84otsu captured by USAAF, serial no 3060.

and I show you ki84kou too.
http://www.warbirds.jp/p-kun/other/ki84/ki84004.jpg
you can distinct kou and otsu by this picture.

http://www.warbirds.jp/p-kun/other/ki84/ki84006.jpg
you can watch 3 ki84otsu on this picture.
front 1 is ki84kou, back 3 are ki84otsu.
(this ki84s ware 104sq)

and, Ki84otsu was different cockpit panel , ki84kou
http://www.warbirds.jp/p-kun/other/ki84/ki84kou_panel.jpg
http://www.warbirds.jp/p-kun/other/ki84/ki84otsu_panel.jpg
up is kou, down is otsu.

and i can show you ki84hei prototype.
http://www.warbirds.jp/p-kun/other/ki84/ki84_hei.jpg

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Re: Is there a plane from...
« Reply #66 on: April 04, 2013, 12:17:34 PM »
and I think ,
it's a OK,no limit version of Ki84 ,get max speed 684km/h, release to AH.

because Real pilot couldn't use second stage of Supercharger on Ta152
,but its possible to AH version of Ta152.

and Ki84Otsu was built more than Ta152.

and, DB605L, used by Bf109K, was such engine with supercharger run on front line?

it's not unfair.
(and it's a famous , pilot of F4U-1C couldn't use Hispano over 10000ft,but its' a no problem on AH)

But, I'm enough current version of ki84 on AH.
because I think, current version of ki84 on AH is very real, it's a closely ki84 in front line .

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Re: Is there a plane from...
« Reply #67 on: April 04, 2013, 12:44:36 PM »
Why no Hispanos over 10k?  I did a quick web search here on my phone and failed to find any information on this statement.
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Re: Is there a plane from...
« Reply #68 on: April 04, 2013, 01:19:51 PM »
Why no Hispanos over 10k?  I did a quick web search here on my phone and failed to find any information on this statement.
My guess would be because the lubricant the US used to make them work, instead of correcting the breech length like the British, got too cold above 10,000 and jams became too prevalent.
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Re: Is there a plane from...
« Reply #69 on: April 04, 2013, 01:25:08 PM »
Why no Hispanos over 10k?  I did a quick web search here on my phone and failed to find any information on this statement.

You can watch Hispano's cover of SpitV,
But ,F4U-1C's don't have such cover.

Yes,F4U-1C don't have anti iced cover for Hispano.
Hispanos of F4U-1C were iced on over 10000ft.

you can read such situation on "Corsair Aces of World WarII",too.
It Book is series of "Osprey Aircraft of the Ace".
(But I have it of Japanese Edition.)

USN used Hispano for aircraft normally,when they got F8F-1B.

May be, SpitVs on Port darwin were same situation when they fought against Zero.
because, G4M1 didn't get big hole on Port darwin,and many of them could return to base.
But this reason is weather of Australia, I think. 

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Re: Is there a plane from...
« Reply #70 on: April 04, 2013, 01:51:06 PM »
If the guns didn't have electric heating then its probabley a legtiimate reason for the C-hog's perk.  Most I encounter in AH 20k+.
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Re: Is there a plane from...
« Reply #71 on: April 04, 2013, 03:02:40 PM »
Add it. Perk it. 



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OK..just add it...it would be fun!   :joystick:
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Re: Is there a plane from...
« Reply #72 on: April 04, 2013, 03:06:48 PM »
Either the Gladiator...or the  Dewoitine D.520, that fine of example of French engineering!

(Yes, I know....original discussion was Japanese perks....sorry)
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Re: Is there a plane from...
« Reply #73 on: April 04, 2013, 08:48:06 PM »
True, but thats not really what I'm basing the ENY off of. In fact, just doing a greater than/less than comparison for ENY doesn't work, since they don't pose an equal threat to all aircraft, even of roughly equal performance.


La-7 is more dangerous to more aircraft, even though the Ki-84 is dangerous to the La-7.

The KI can't dive....trust me.  I know this.
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Re: Is there a plane from...
« Reply #74 on: April 04, 2013, 08:50:26 PM »
and I think ,
it's a OK,no limit version of Ki84 ,get max speed 684km/h, release to AH.

because Real pilot couldn't use second stage of Supercharger on Ta152
,but its possible to AH version of Ta152.

and Ki84Otsu was built more than Ta152.

and, DB605L, used by Bf109K, was such engine with supercharger run on front line?

it's not unfair.
(and it's a famous , pilot of F4U-1C couldn't use Hispano over 10000ft,but its' a no problem on AH)

But, I'm enough current version of ki84 on AH.
because I think, current version of ki84 on AH is very real, it's a closely ki84 in front line .

I like this guy!  ^^^^^^
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