Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets

[RotBaron]

That comment makes no sense.  If the A-20G can bomb and kill you, the P-51D, P-47D-25, -40, P-47N, P-38, F4U-1D, -1C, -4, Bf110G-2, Fw190F-8, Me410, Mosquito and Typhoon can all do the same.  The A-20G has no magical ability to kill GVs, it just carries a lot of bombs, but at the expense of being vulnerable to fighters.

Also, the 4.5" rockets are, at least in my tests, incapable of hurting a Tiger II.  Even the British 60lb rockets couldn't hurt it.  Only the Fw190F-8's rockets were a threat.

The fighters you mentioned except for a couple have a limitation of two bombs. If you don't think the A20 has magical ability, then you don't bomb**** (ty for not btw) or you don't gv much. I'll tell you how I can prove it, look up my A20 stats, I only fly it as last resort base defense, I have never practiced dive bombing and I get the kill almost every time with one bomb. I don't think I've ever killed a gv in a fighter that wasn't already damaged. So that proves I can't  b****, but yet I can magically hit any gv that gets in front of the Havoc, luck? Too many times for it to be luck. Also you failed to address F3 mode,   600ft over town see enemy at 5k run for base ack come back, simple, no fighter has anything close to the advantages, thus you don't see ppl upping to kill a gv nearly as often with a fighter.

Finally, "vulnerable" to fighters, depends on how you look at that one too, A20 is a magical  HO monster too. And, I don't use Tiger 2's, terribly slow and ballistics are poor, nor do I see many others using it either. With the exception of those concrete huggers.

I understand, (edit) some ppl dislike the gv aspect, 'tis ok.  Not saying you do, but...

 



P.S. Also forgot to mention how much damage they take from wirbs and still land 3-4 kills...

[Karnak]

They are good GV killers, no doubt. I didn't address the F3 thing because I don't think it plays nearly as big a role as people make it out to be playing.

As to its vulnerability, I have spent time hunting them by flying over GV fights looking for them.  It is able to absorb punishment well, but I've not ever been seriously threatened by one.

[cobia38]

 I am officially re-naming my A-20 " The Magic HO Monster "  

 Not all of us havoc dweebs spend countless hours dropping eggs on cockroaches,tour 157 i have 235 kills in an A-20 and only 9 are GVs
 hardly a threat  to the ground war eh.

[Karnak]

I am officially re-naming my A-20 " The Magic HO Monster "  

 Not all of us havoc dweebs spend countless hours dropping eggs on cockroaches,tour 157 i have 235 kills in an A-20 and only 9 are GVs
 hardly a threat  to the ground war eh.

Yes, but your misuse of it, however successful you are at misusing it, is not representative of how it is used for most of its sorties in AH.  As I said, I have never been seriously threatened by one, but I doubt that would be true if I had fought yours.

As a note, an A-20G pilot who flew them against the Japanese told a group of us that they were not allowed to roll it inverted.  It simply was never flown as a fighter like you use it in AH.

[cobia38]

 allmost forgot,speaking of rockets on havocs....
   R.A.T.O s
 
   

these are not photoshop BTW

[EagleDNY]

+1 - they carried them - no reason why we shouldn't.

[HawkerMKII]

I am officially re-naming my A-20 " The Magic HO Monster "  

 Not all of us havoc dweebs spend countless hours dropping eggs on cockroaches,tour 157 i have 235 kills in an A-20 and only 9 are GVs
 hardly a threat  to the ground war eh.

MAGIC in more ways than HO monster.....and sorry to say not in a good way...enough said

[TOMCAT21]

RATO +1 , as for perking it you might as well perk everything else that carries a bomb as to they are all threats to gv's ( see SBD, TBM, P40, etc ). The A-20 is a ground attack aircraft so anything on the ground is in play regardless of whether it is a gv, town or aircraft on the ground( parafrags ).

[RotBaron]

I am officially re-naming my A-20 " The Magic HO Monster "  
 

 

[SmokinLoon]

Also, the 4.5" rockets are, at least in my tests, incapable of hurting a Tiger II.  Even the British 60lb rockets couldn't hurt it.  Only the Fw190F-8's rockets were a threat.

I've destroyed two King Tigers with rockets.  The first I used the Germam Pb1 rockets to the broadside and the second was a British 3in/60 Pdr SAP rocket to the rear via a Mossi.  Everything else has bounced off, but that is typical for most armor though.  It has been along time since I've used the Soviet RS 82/132 rockets and the US 4.5 and 5in rockets vs tanks.

[guncrasher]

here's a tiger getting killed with a single rocket from a ponyd.  was pure luck as all I was trying to do was mark him for the ground tanks.





semp

[Karnak]

here's a tiger getting killed with a single rocket from a ponyd.  was pure luck as all I was trying to do was mark him for the ground tanks.


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semp

That is a Tiger I, not a Tiger II.

[bozon]

They are good GV killers, no doubt. I didn't address the F3 thing because I don't think it plays nearly as big a role as people make it out to be playing.

As to its vulnerability, I have spent time hunting them by flying over GV fights looking for them.  It is able to absorb punishment well, but I've not ever been seriously threatened by one.

Taking away F3 will seriously reduce its use as a fighter. The rear sector visibility from the cockpit would make you wish you were in an F6F.

[Ack-Ack]

As a note, an A-20G pilot who flew them against the Japanese told a group of us that they were not allowed to roll it inverted.  It simply was never flown as a fighter like you use it in AH.

It's also stated in the pilot's manual.

ack-ack

[cobia38]

Taking away F3 will seriously reduce its use as a fighter. The rear sector visibility from the cockpit would make you wish you were in an F6F.

 actually the rear veiw is far better then a F6,you should try it