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Offline Bino

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The Last Battle Of Kharkov - Final Scores
« on: March 17, 2013, 08:57:33 AM »
Here are the final scores for the March 2013 FSO, "The Last Battle Of Kharkov":







Here are the spreadsheets with the details of how the scores were tallied:
http://kenshelby.us/fso-2013-03/frame-1-score.xlsx
http://kenshelby.us/fso-2013-03/frame-2-score.xlsx
http://kenshelby.us/fso-2013-03/frame-3-score.xlsx

The controversy over "friendly fire" penalties seems to have been a tempest in a teapot. Most of the time, there are only one or two such kills on each side. (Ironically, in Frame Three I managed to stray in front of a squaddie while he was firing! Wagger got the kill when I ditched.) In Frame One, the Axis had one of those extremely rare mid-air bomb death events, which skewed the FF penalty a bit.  But overall, friendly fire did not have a huge impact on the score.

Neither side paid much attention to the stipulation that re-arming could only be done at the active fields, so I decided not to equally penalize both sides. That seemed pretty pointless. While I did see a few complaints about the FuelBurnRateMult in this event, to accurately reflect the map scale it really should have been 2.0, and not the 1.4 that was selected. To paraphrase Douglas Adams: Russia is big, really, really big.

Hope you all enjoyed this one.   :salute


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Re: The Last Battle Of Kharkov - Final Scores
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2013, 11:35:49 AM »
I went the whole FSO without knowing the rearm at active fields bit. It must have slipped through the crack. I am very sorry for blatantly breaking a rule. It should have been mentioned after Frame 1 if it was a big problem. Again, sorry Ill be sure and take a closer look at future setups.
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Re: The Last Battle Of Kharkov - Final Scores
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2013, 12:35:19 PM »
I had a lot of fun, even with flying stukas. What made it really fun was scoring my 101 kill and getting my oak leaves.  :rock  :joystick:
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Re: The Last Battle Of Kharkov - Final Scores
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2013, 12:43:21 PM »
With the fuel burn set where it was and a requirement to return to takeoff base as well to rearm, I wouldn't even have bothered taking off.  No exaggeration.  FSO isn't about the geography of Europe.

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Re: The Last Battle Of Kharkov - Final Scores
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2013, 02:36:47 PM »
With the fuel burn set where it was and a requirement to return to takeoff base as well to rearm, I wouldn't even have bothered taking off.  No exaggeration.  FSO isn't about the geography of Europe.

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Agreed. We've run this setup a few times and the fuel burn is always a problem. It's just as hard to plan a frame around it as it is to fly and manage. It needs a tweak up. It's a two hour event and the current burn rate all but precludes any real action in hour two for either side. Stupid.
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Re: The Last Battle Of Kharkov - Final Scores
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2013, 05:43:32 PM »
I went the whole FSO without knowing the rearm at active fields bit. It must have slipped through the crack. I am very sorry for blatantly breaking a rule. It should have been mentioned after Frame 1 if it was a big problem. Again, sorry Ill be sure and take a closer look at future setups.

I swore that I saw "rearm at any friendly field; land at any friendly field; get landing bonus only by landing at home field" in the objectives each week.  :headscratch:
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Re: The Last Battle Of Kharkov - Final Scores
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2013, 06:19:56 PM »
I swore that I saw "rearm at any friendly field; land at any friendly field; get landing bonus only by landing at home field" in the objectives each week.  :headscratch:

 Ditto. However since you said that you weren't counting them I guess it doesn't really matter now.
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Re: The Last Battle Of Kharkov - Final Scores
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2013, 06:20:43 PM »
I swore that I saw "rearm at any friendly field; land at any friendly field; get landing bonus only by landing at home field" in the objectives each week.  :headscratch:

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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2013, 06:38:51 PM »
Us too

Hell we even asked and that's what we were told.
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Re: The Last Battle Of Kharkov - Final Scores
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2013, 07:03:43 PM »

Guilty here too...and Bino being the setup CM overlooked it too Friday night.  I think we all did.  One of those cases that our minds read the same thing every week, when it changes we missed it.

Sure enough though...went back and found it in Objectives.  Really...shame on all of us.  We should never have to ask anything come game night...we are all given the specifics and it is our responsibility as leaders to have the correct information available for our guys.

Moot point though this time...in so much as the fuel burn and distances did not allow for adherence to the rule anyway.

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Re: The Last Battle Of Kharkov - Final Scores
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2013, 08:02:12 PM »
I swore that I saw "rearm at any friendly field; land at any friendly field; get landing bonus only by landing at home field" in the objectives each week.  :headscratch:

Odd, not what I read, but then again ya .........Oh never mind 


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Re: The Last Battle Of Kharkov - Final Scores
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2013, 08:38:02 PM »
Odd, not what I read, but then again ya .........Oh never mind 


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Yep, went back and re-read the objectives. I was wrong; they said rearm/refuel only at home base. But then again, I was only the setup running the arena, not the admin/designer or a CiC - my job was to set up the arena and make sure you guys had a place to play.  ;)

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Re: The Last Battle Of Kharkov - Final Scores
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2013, 08:59:41 AM »
I understand that selectively modeling "realism" is part of what makes this game fun. Dealing with all the myriad minutiae of a completely accurate flight sim will not appeal to all. However, it seemed to me that introducing a modicum of reality about the vast distances of Russia would make this FSO more immersive. It looks like I was wrong. The comments in this thread on the fuel and range aspects of the design have been pretty uniformly negative.  I will email the command staff of the FSO squads directly and ask for opinions, which I will collect and present here.  Stay tuned.

As for the confusion about the re-arm/re-fuel rule of this design, it was very clearly spelled out in the objectives for each frame, which were both emailed to all squads and posted in this forum.  For example:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,346586.0.html


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Re: The Last Battle Of Kharkov - Final Scores
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2013, 01:03:58 PM »
I swore that I saw "rearm at any friendly field; land at any friendly field; get landing bonus only by landing at home field" in the objectives each week.  :headscratch:

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Re: The Last Battle Of Kharkov - Final Scores
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2013, 04:21:45 PM »

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