I did get outside the tower with the "F" keys. Tried the arrows and head up and down and that didn't work. Neither of these techniques were like the standing outside I experienced before.I know on one of the maps on one of the fields the standard tower view is standing outside. Hopefully someday I will come across it again.Thanks for the help
Maybe it was the WW1 map. I don't think you're in a tower for that one.