Hear the enemy turret tuning

[Mano]

Imagine you are shut down........know an enemy is near.......and he is shut down as well.
He turns his turret and you learn his location. You should be able hear a turret within 1/4 or 1/2 the distance of
A running engine. I think the current distance for hearing an engine is 3.5k.

I think this feature would add to the stealth experience in tanks.....and hopefully not be
Expensive to implement.

 

[phatzo]

Without looking into this, how did our tanks turrets turn? I'm sure some are hand cranked, some are hydraulic and some electric (all pure speculation) Turning the engine off would deprive an hydraulic pump of its power as it would also deplete a charge in a battery. Is turning off your engine and operating a turret even feasible?

[Karnak]

Um, no.  You honestly think you could hear another tank's turret being turned from hundreds of yards away?

The gaminess of turning your own sounds down/off in order to hear other players is already ridiculous.

[phatzo]

OK I just looked, on page 24 of Tiger Tanks At War it states that the turret was was hydraulically traversed while fine aiming was done with a handwheel. How is it we have Tiger tanks turning off their engine and still having hydraulic pressure to turn their turret?

[phatzo]

The engine drove front sprockets, which were mounted quite low. The Krupp-designed eleven-tonne turret had a hydraulic motor whose pump was powered by mechanical drive from the engine. A full rotation took about a minute.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_I

[colmbo]

OK I just looked, on page 24 of Tiger Tanks At War it states that the turret was was hydraulically traversed while fine aiming was done with a handwheel. How is it we have Tiger tanks turning off their engine and still having hydraulic pressure to turn their turret?

Perhaps they had electric pumps. The airplanes I flew had electric pumps.

[Citabria]

id rather have two speeds for all turrets. one with the engine and its turret motor and one for the hand crank of the poor tank crew.

ie engine on... fast turret.... engine off slow turret.

[phatzo]

id rather have two speeds for all turrets. one with the engine and its turret motor and one for the hand crank of the poor tank crew.

ie engine on... fast turret.... engine off slow turret.

It would make a lot more sense to have it that way.

[phatzo]

Perhaps they had electric pumps. The airplanes I flew had electric pumps.

The engine drove front sprockets, which were mounted quite low. The Krupp-designed eleven-tonne turret had a hydraulic motor whose pump was powered by mechanical drive from the engine. A full rotation took about a minute.

[bj229r]

id rather have two speeds for all turrets. one with the engine and its turret motor and one for the hand crank of the poor tank crew.

ie engine on... fast turret.... engine off slow turret.

That would be the best combination of realism and gameplay---Tiger was pretty unique, as the actual tracks were turned by a generator. Pretty sure most other tanks had to turn a hand crank. Would help a bit trying to deal with campers

[SmokinLoon]

That would be the best combination of realism and gameplay---Tiger was pretty unique, as the actual tracks were turned by a generator. Pretty sure most other tanks had to turn a hand crank. Would help a bit trying to deal with campers

Going from memory here, but the Pzr III and older/smaller tanks used a hand crank and the Pzr IV and later tanks had a powered traverse.  Of noteworthy mention is the last version of the Pzr IV, it did NOT have a powered traverse.  The most logical reason was the lack of resources I'll bet.

Otherwise, the early we look in WWII the more likely a tank had manual turret traverse and the later we look the more likely it had powered traverse, at least in German and Soviet tanks. 

I just checked and confirmed my hunch.  The British and the US had powered traverse from day 1.  Even the light tank M3 Stuart and Cruiser Mk I, and the medium tank Grant/Lee M3 tank had hydrolic powered traverse.  Oh, and the Japanese had all hand cranks.   

[bj229r]

Does 'power' equal engine running?

[715]

I believe I read that in the T34 a couple of locking pins were released and the turret was slewed roughly manually just by pushing on it (or, perhaps, the gun).  Then the pins were locked and fine (still manual) control was via a crank.  Late versions of the T34/85 had electric turret slewing.  The T34 certainly didn't need the engine running to turn the turret and, except on the late version electric drive, I suspect it would be pretty quiet.  

[Mano]

Maybe I opened a can of worms by not doing my homework first, but I would like to hear enemy turrets turning within the appropriate distance. If certain tanks in AH could not turn their turrets with the engine off, we can ask the programmers to add this feature to the game, if it can be done. We all want as much realism as possible.

Btw....I turned my turret sound really low so I could hear enemy tanks coming. he he

I use Rangers sound pack and I can identify what tank is coming, with he exception of the Panther and Panzer F.
Different tanks seem to have different turret sounds.

 

[Chalenge]

Before you jump to conclusions I think you should actually research the subject. Some of the ideas in this thread are very poorly conceived and are in stark contrast to reality.