Planes & Vehicles on AH Wiki - UPDATE!

[kvuo75]

I think there should be an active admin for it. When a page gets edited there should be a reason attached so either the admin can check it, of the person whose post was removed/edited can find out the "why".

Is this possible?

click on the history tab on any page of a wiki, it shows all revisions and who did them.. sometimes why.

[kvuo75]

I made this page: http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/Me_410

Back in August... it is still not linked from the main page.  It may not be perfect, but it is hell and gone better than the I-16 page for example.

I would be happy to continue contributing, but not if it's never going to see the light of day.

the wish should be that the aircraft page gets unlocked.. it hasn't been touched since 2009. 

[Butcher]

PS: for all I know it could have been done out of spite by another player,that wouldn't surprize me at all.

I think this was the case, I fixed up a Panther G page and few others, and they were either overwritten or erased, I realized its best just to leave it alone and walk away.

Sad part is I put hours and hours into listing information about the Panther G, only to watch it get deleted by a day.

[BuckShot]

I'm sure Butcher's info was good. Why would a chump delete it? Who?

I noticed "Turn you idiot, turn" was removed from the Brew page, so someone is changing it.

[Butcher]

I'm sure Butcher's info was good. Why would a chump delete it? Who?

I noticed "Turn you idiot, turn" was removed from the Brew page, so someone is changing it.

Well that might be true, I stuck to historical data, deployment dates for Panther tanks, strengths and numbers - if something was wrong, someone could of emailed or message me I would of been happy to get the info right.
I wanted to give the entire history, far more accurate then a wikipedia page would be, I had over 20 books or sources I was going to publish as well, just to give more indepth detail.

But all good things come to an end I guess.

[morfiend]

I'm sure Butcher's info was good. Why would a chump delete it? Who?

I noticed "Turn you idiot, turn" was removed from the Brew page, so someone is changing it.

  Good question Buckshot,why would someone do it??   To get your answer all you need do is read this forum for a little while.  I guess it's the nature of the internet,anyone can do or say as they please without fear of repercussions.

   A wiki is supposed to be free to access for content and editing,unfortunately that leaves it open to those who think it's ok to undo someones hard work. I suppose the lesson here is to backup everything so fixing the issue isn't such a big deal.


   

[BaldEagl]

I tried adding content to the AHwiki early on.  Either I didn't know how or it never got added so that was the end for me.

[bustr]

AHWiki needs to start over with it's policy. Change logs for all actions need to be public so if Butcher spends 80 hours creating content and updating the Wiki he can see who deleted his content along with the whole community. Other wise the AHWiki has been claimed by a person or persons unknown as their personal space knowing they have immunity. Also all the admins\mods need to be public so someone like Butcher has recource to HTC if the only reason for the deletion of his content is he's not a member of the in crowd at this time. Technical minutia like what Krusty and WMaker fight over with FW190 can be juried or posted as credited co-views on the subject.

Other wise the AHWiki is crapola as a free tool for the "WHOLE" AH community. Currently it's no different than giving the muppets the DA as their personal domain with no oversight by HTC. It's a whizz pit for little boys to kick each other in the nads by deleting content. But, then what is the common thread with the content that has survived which grants it immunity from the whizzers?

By the way, are logs available for the AHWiki that Skuzzy can search to see who performed deletes all of these years? It would go a long way towards returning confidence in using the AHWiki to post content. The current urban legend is only the chosen are allowed to post in the Holy Book of Gamey Wiki. All else get anonymously vetoed out of hand because they aren't friends with the chosen few. Krusty, Butcher's, and others content didn't just decide to delete themselves. Be interesting to see the results of looking through the logs for a pattern especially if the surviving content is owned by the same small group of contributors. Why would they be special and others not in that case?

Or HTC can just start over by logging all actions to the Wiki, making them transparent to the community, and publishing the identity of all admins and moderators since supposedly the Wiki is a knowledge source and not the whizz fest forums where mods need to be anonymous to help control heated passions with the number rules.

[The Fugitive]

If you go to any page, as long as your signed in, you can click the "History" tab at the top and see who edited the pages in order of the edits. You can also select two pages and click the "compare pages" button to see what was edited.

[The Fugitive]

Also, I just found out that you can restore the pages if someone clears your work out.

If it looks like someone is clearing pages just to be a d!ck, I suggest you send a note to Skuzzy and report the incident.

[tunnelrat]

Hey Butcher, take a look here: http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php?title=Panther_G&limit=500&action=history

It looks like you're the only one who'd modified the page... you can compare revisions there, and restore.

Is the missing data in any of those pages?

[tunnelrat]

So, we've got a group of active players here ready to kick this in gear and get these pages updated... we just need to get someone to get access turned over.

I nominate Fugi to run the show!  At least for awhile...

Question is, how do we get access to update the planes/vehicles main pages?

[Murdr]

I made this page: http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/Me_410

Back in August... it is still not linked from the main page.  It may not be perfect, but it is hell and gone better than the I-16 page for example.

I would be happy to continue contributing, but not if it's never going to see the light of day.

Updated    The A/C index is one of the few protected pages because it's a main hub, and it would only be edited to link to new models added to the game.

Here's where you can find a list of current admins http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=sysop&limit=50 in such a case.

[Murdr]

As stated before, this is a wiki.  You all have access to edit and update.  It's all transparent with a history of edits for every page, and a "contributions" page for every user.  The only need for any admins is to manage the very few protected pages, and to handle conflicts should they arise.


Edit:  As an example of how transparent it is...

Bustr, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.... Because it seems like you are, and yet what you are typing is somewhat like what I have observed as well. I tried updating several wiki entries and gave up after experiencing the same issues that Butcher describes.

So I said "screw it" and left it to whomever wants to stake claim to it as their own private playground.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=krusty&namespace=&year=&month=-1

Over a 1 month period almost 5 years ago, Krusty edited 3 content and 2 talk pages.  One edit was over written by another user in error, and was restored by an admin as soon as the issue was noticed.  Another edit was removed by HTC for improper format.



So as has been stated time and again, in regards to "What should be" on the wiki...  All registered users are free to edit the wiki, so have at it.

[Murdr]

Here's the page about admins, and how to become one http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/AHWiki:Administrators   ...I'm sure anyone who has shown a responsible demeanor around the community and wants to do the homework to be knowledgeable with the wiki system would be welcomed.