Microsoft Windows XP has one year to live

[Skuzzy]

Oh come on, you posted multiple posts on this UBB on how you were sticking to your tweaked XP long after Win7 was already established on the market. And there's nothing wrong with that, XP was a great OS especially if you overlook the security problems.

Here's one example of changes made in Win8: http://cloud.dzone.com/articles/windows-kernel-dev-discusses

I did stick with XP until Windows 7 got stable enough to be useful to me.  Being useful to me means a number of things.  Stability being achieved.  The initial release of Window 7 had severe compatibility and stability problems which finally got addressed.  Learning the architecture so that it could be manipulated to fit my needs took some time as well.  That said, Windows 7 will be the last Microsoft OS I will ever have.

I am turning my focus towards Linux now and pitching in to help with some applications I need, in order to remove Windows from my systems, at home.

[Denniss]

I once heard a rule of the thumb - never buy a Microsoft OS unless the most apparent issues have been cured with the first Servicepack.
Would be interesting to see how MS handles servicepack-alikes on Win 8.

[Skuzzy]

I once heard a rule of the thumb - never buy a Microsoft OS unless the most apparent issues have been cured with the first Servicepack.
Would be interesting to see how MS handles servicepack-alikes on Win 8.

It looks like Microsoft is going to eschew issuing free service packs and instead just go straight to new releases.  This way they can get more revenue.  8.1 or 9 is supposed to be out later this year.

That is my guess, for the moment.

It has always been a good rule of thumb to avoid Microsoft operating systems until the first service pack was released.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

It looks like Microsoft is going to eschew issuing free service packs and instead just go straight to new releases.  This way they can get more revenue.  8.1 or 9 is supposed to be out later this year.

That is my guess, for the moment.

It has always been a good rule of thumb to avoid Microsoft operating systems until the first service pack was released.

This is why MS had the first service pack on alpha testing already on Win7 release

[Lab Rat 3947]

Best grab Windows 7 while you still can.

My almost 7 year old Dell XPS 400 has been upgraded to a 650W power supply and 4 gigs of RAM.
My processor is a dual core Pentium 820 (2.80Ghz, 800FSB0)
I'm currently using XP Pro SP3 32 bit. I was thinking of getting WIN7 Pro and going to 64 bit.
I know that I will have to increase the RAM, but also want to know what kind of problems am I facing ?
Can I upgrade with what I have or should I get a new mobo & i7 processor ?

LtngRydr

[Bizman]

My almost 7 year old Dell XPS 400 has been upgraded to a 650W power supply and 4 gigs of RAM.
My processor is a dual core Pentium 820 (2.80Ghz, 800FSB0)
I'm currently using XP Pro SP3 32 bit. I was thinking of getting WIN7 Pro and going to 64 bit.
I know that I will have to increase the RAM, but also want to know what kind of problems am I facing ?
Can I upgrade with what I have or should I get a new mobo & i7 processor ?

LtngRydr

Most likely your 7 year old motherboard can't take more than the 4 GB of RAM you already have. The memory type might also be the old DDR400/pc3200, which is both outdated and expensive. Keep that rig as is, using it as a decent secondary gaming rig for familiarizing your friends to the secrets of AcesHigh during a nice moist men only evening.

[Torquila]

Haha, skuzzy is funny

[icepac]

I've got drive images saved of every microsoft OS going back to dos3.

Three of each...........one that is a clean install with all of the "service packs" and updates saved in it's own directory and one of a brand new install but with all the "successful updates" (not the ones that sucked) and one with all of my usual software installed and fully "registered".

None of the above have ever been connected to the internet meaning no chance for viruses in the drive images.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I've got drive images saved of every microsoft OS going back to dos3.

Three of each...........one that is a clean install with all of the "service packs" and updates saved in it's own directory and one of a brand new install but with all the "successful updates" (not the ones that sucked) and one with all of my usual software installed and fully "registered".

None of the above have ever been connected to the internet meaning no chance for viruses in the drive images.

What were you thinking to do with them? Run them in a virtual machine? They won't work with the current hardware anyway.

[gyrene81]

Whats wrong with you people?

Windows 8 is basically 7 with added security and metro...

If you don't like it, don't buy it.

Why do we have to make a religion out of the difference?

nothing wrong with those of us who know windows...microsoft is stepping on their willies harder and more often now, the crap in win8 is just the beginning. if it wasn't for the fact that winblowz was forced on the public through some shady back alley corporate dealings, we would all be talking about linux right now.

if you think win8 is more secure than any other version, the fact that microsoft has a complete inventory of your computer and everything you have installed or attached to it should make you feel very secure...

[MADe]

My almost 7 year old Dell XPS 400 has been upgraded to a 650W power supply and 4 gigs of RAM.
My processor is a dual core Pentium 820 (2.80Ghz, 800FSB0)
I'm currently using XP Pro SP3 32 bit. I was thinking of getting WIN7 Pro and going to 64 bit.
I know that I will have to increase the RAM, but also want to know what kind of problems am I facing ?
Can I upgrade with what I have or should I get a new mobo & i7 processor ?

LtngRydr

You want a new build. You want a 64bit OS so you can use more than 4GB of ram, minimum of 6GB at 1300+MHz, DDR3.
Stuff is cheap now. Just do not buy latest releases.
You want an SSD for OS.
A PCI-e 2.0 vid card.
An EX 58 or better mobo.
A 3GHz cpu/minimum.
750W PSU
W7 ultimate 64 bit

[MrRiplEy[H]]

You want a new build. You want a 64bit OS so you can use more than 4GB of ram, minimum of 6GB at 1300+MHz, DDR3.
Stuff is cheap now. Just do not buy latest releases.
You want an SSD for OS.
A PCI-e 2.0 vid card.
An EX 58 or better mobo.
A 3GHz cpu/minimum.
750W PSU
W7 ultimate 64 bit

Uh.. advice like that is better left unsaid. You do realize that 'A PCI-E 2.0 vid card' covers everything between $20 unplayable POS and $1200 high end card?

[icepac]

What were you thinking to do with them? Run them in a virtual machine? They won't work with the current hardware anyway.

Strange......I run Win95 osr2, Win98SE, XPmce, and Win7 on the same machine without needing virtual machines just like I used to run WFW 3.11, win95 osr2, win98, NT3.51, and NT4.0 on the same machine while doing software quality assurance at Claritas.

I also run late software releases on hardware that supports ISA bus for machines that require it because the ISA card is mission critical and costs 15 grand which makes it not economically feasible to develop a newer version with a modern architecture.

Again......as stated in another thread.........some of us have more experience than you ever will and therefore do things you do not possess the knowledge to understand.

[DREDIOCK]

I once heard a rule of the thumb - never buy a Microsoft OS unless the most apparent issues have been cured with the first Servicepack.
Would be interesting to see how MS handles servicepack-alikes on Win 8.

Never buy or fly the model "a" of anything

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Strange......I run Win95 osr2, Win98SE, XPmce, and Win7 on the same machine without needing virtual machines just like I used to run WFW 3.11, win95 osr2, win98, NT3.51, and NT4.0 on the same machine while doing software quality assurance at Claritas.

I also run late software releases on hardware that supports ISA bus for machines that require it because the ISA card is mission critical and costs 15 grand which makes it not economically feasible to develop a newer version with a modern architecture.

Again......as stated in another thread.........some of us have more experience than you ever will and therefore do things you do not possess the knowledge to understand.

Oh spare me the BS. There are no drivers available for any current hardware to those ancient OSes. You may be able to gimp along somehow but even that's pretty unbelievable.