Lanc .303's overmodelled?

[tuton25]

When comparing the hurri to the lanc you gotta remember the guns are centralized like on the 38, which means more rounds are hitting the target...

A story from rural wisconsin:

A buddy and I had a little kid trainer bow (less than 20lbs draw) and were shooting it the air and watching it fall.....
Then we thought it would be even more fun to get his dads deer bow (75lbs draw) and shoot it straight up and watch it fall......
we found the arrow the next day in the neighbors roof about 300 yards away......

[danny76]

And yet when I suggestes that they were underpowered in  a spit 1 a couple of months ago, qquoting the weight of rounds striking per second I was told I knew nothing about firearms and that .303's were inneffective rounds over 200 yards

[Randy1]

I ran into the lasers last night for the first time.  Up until the change I would have much preferred taking on a Lanc of a B17 but now they are both big hitters.

[Gixer]

Ever since the 3 buff formation and lazer gun covergence, I just can't be bothered with Buffs even if I start from a good position, just not worth the effort or energy to take them on. And that's even when I was spending most of my time in the Yak T.

Always thought the pin point gun covergency and range is ridiculous, add to that being able to fire from external view.. etc etc .     

Unless the Buffs are going for something important like a CV I usually just let them pass by.



<S>...-Gixer

[tunnelrat]

It's amazing the number of buffers who can't gun to save their lives though... it seems like 50% you run into are amazing, and 50% are just terrible.

High slashing attacks still work well, but it gets a lot tougher at altitude.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

A bomber gunner is able to engage and track a target in a way that a fighter pilot can't and can adjust for projectile drop and deflection while hosing the target down. There has been a lot of discussion about the effective range of .50s and .303s in regard to buffs and the prevailing wisdom is that a stable platform combined with unconverged buff guns results in the "laser" effect so many complain of.

Except that historically speaking bombers were never death spewing monsters, they were dead meat in the hands of fighters if they had no escort to protect them.

[Wiley]

Except that historically speaking bombers were never death spewing monsters, they were dead meat in the hands of fighters if they had no escort to protect them.

Actually I don't know the answer to this, but most fighters didn't creep up the six of buffs in the war, did they?  They made fast attacks from on high at an angle, which makes them a harder target than 90% of the people who attack buffs in the MA.

Seems to me they'd have had a lot more trouble with buffs if they'd engaged them like people do in the MA.

Wiley.

[Lusche]

they were dead meat in the hands of fighters if they had no escort to protect them.

And the vast majority of buffs in AH are just that.


Unfortunately many fighters insist on slowly creeping up a buffs low 6 with only a minor speed difference 

[Karnak]

Bombers, even 999000, = free kills in AH, other than fast, high bombers.

[Ack-Ack]

My favorite was to take a bottle rocket with no stick, light it and set it in someone's hood on their jacket or sweatshirt.

In college we used to break off the stick and light the bottle rocket under the door of someone's room and then sit back and laugh at the screams of terror.

ack-ack

[Ack-Ack]

I ran into the lasers last night for the first time.  Up until the change I would have much preferred taking on a Lanc of a B17 but now they are both big hitters.

If you're getting hit by the tail guns, you're doing something very wrong when attackin bombers.

ack-ack

[Arlo]

In college we used to break off the stick and light the bottle rocket under the door of someone's room and then sit back and laugh at the screams of terror.

ack-ack

In my room .... aka snoring. 

[SmokinLoon]

In college we used to break off the stick and light the bottle rocket under the door of someone's room and then sit back and laugh at the screams of terror.

ack-ack

Ya know.... I watched that exact thing happen in a dorm at Northwestern College in Orange City, IA, in the spring of 1994.  We Morningside football players were there for a basketball game and went up to a dorm for a "party" of sorts after the game was over (small college teams get along at least in Iowa, we played for the fun not the TV glory).  One of the Northwestern football players said "watch this" and shoved a bottle rocket under the door of some Japanese student's door.  They came running out madder than Hell, but didn't know what to do when they saw these hulks standing in the hallway laughing hysterically.     I felt sorry for them because they were mad as can be but could do nothing about it. 

[tunnelrat]

If you're getting hit by the tail guns, you're doing something very wrong when attackin bombers.

ack-ack

High Lancs have a pretty good chance at getting a shot at you from the tail unless you are spot-on in a good high-alt fighter.  That thing has some serious angles.

[mthrockmor]

12x.303 multiplied by three buffs makes 36x.303 on the sweet spot.That's a fair amount of lead on target.

Boo