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Offline MK-84

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Confused about CH products
« on: April 15, 2013, 06:54:26 PM »
I got these from a pawn shop for $20

It looks identical to the picture.
I do not know how old they are or really anything about them.

I tried setting it up in AH and the yoke seems to work fine but I can not figure out how to set up the pedals.  I am not certain the pedals are made for a flight sim.  They do not slide, they independently press like pedals in a car.  I can seem to only set up one pedal axis for yaw control.

Are these even going to be relevent for AH, or are they way to old to function properly? can I even tell?  And how on earth would I set them up if they do work.

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Re: Confused about CH products
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2013, 07:22:13 PM »
They should slide as well as pivot. Check to make sure the pedal locks are not in place. The pedal locks would be in the groove in front of the pedal. They keep the pedals from sliding so they can be used in driving sims.
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Re: Confused about CH products
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2013, 07:27:51 PM »
They should slide as well as pivot. Check to make sure the pedal locks are not in place. The pedal locks would be in the groove in front of the pedal. They keep the pedals from sliding so they can be used in driving sims.

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Re: Confused about CH products
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2013, 12:12:25 AM »
Yes two black 2 inch clicks that push into grooves  :old:

If you got them for $20 well done :)
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Re: Confused about CH products
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2013, 12:01:02 PM »
They should slide as well as pivot. Check to make sure the pedal locks are not in place. The pedal locks would be in the groove in front of the pedal. They keep the pedals from sliding so they can be used in driving sims.
Those look like they don't slide. There's been a model with just the pivot. IIRC there was a small slider switch in front of the bottom part for "car" and "plane". You can use them for rudder without problems. In fact, not all real aeroplane rudder pedals go back and forth, some act more like those on the picture, operating with ankle movements. -When used as a rudder pedal, make sure that the pedals are configured as one axis only. The aforementioned slider switch may help, also look in the Windows calibration for a tick box about one or two axis functionality.

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Re: Confused about CH products
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2013, 12:06:21 PM »
The left hand foot peddle just shows the slide on the pic, they do slide Bizman is wrong :old:

But your still awesome Biz :)

On your avatar you have a bear Bizman, ask Pipz what he did to that dancing bear :cry
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Re: Confused about CH products
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2013, 12:24:11 PM »
Awww, I love you Zack! I may be wrong about those peddles, but I know for sure CH has made ones that only rock, not roll. Err... slide.

As for my bear, notice that he's sitting on his aperture to be safe from Pipz and his likes. He's also having a beer after another, the brand of the beer being "Karhu" which is bear in Finnish.  :cheers:

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Re: Confused about CH products
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2013, 12:40:35 PM »
Those look like they don't slide. There's been a model with just the pivot. IIRC there was a small slider switch in front of the bottom part for "car" and "plane". You can use them for rudder without problems. In fact, not all real aeroplane rudder pedals go back and forth, some act more like those on the picture, operating with ankle movements. -When used as a rudder pedal, make sure that the pedals are configured as one axis only. The aforementioned slider switch may help, also look in the Windows calibration for a tick box about one or two axis functionality.

Those were the old CH Pedals, not the Pro Pedals and were discontinued way back in 1999.

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Re: Confused about CH products
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2013, 12:52:02 PM »
As the OP said:
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I do not know how old they are or really anything about them.

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Re: Confused about CH products
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2013, 04:14:20 PM »
This is the older style. The base is different. The circle shows the "car" mode, "plane" mode switch.


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Re: Confused about CH products
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2013, 05:29:30 PM »
There was a blank area that had car/plane mode but it was covered over leading me to believe they wouldnt slide. they do, I had no idea it had slide locks.

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Re: Confused about CH products
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2013, 07:00:11 PM »
Does anyone actually use these in AH? Good lord
i cant seem to make my feet precise enough to do what I can with a twisty, and the yoke makes every action feel like its in slow motion.  I've played for about three hours after FINALLY figuriing out how to set it up and I'm worse than a 2 weeker.

Edit: I can see how using a yoke can be alot more fun while flying a bomber.  It feels more genuine, each action more deliberate,  but there is a huge amount of travel that I can not seem to compensate for compared with my sidewinder precision pro. (The only stick I have ever used)
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Re: Confused about CH products
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2013, 07:35:22 PM »
Does anyone actually use these in AH? Good lord
i cant seem to make my feet precise enough to do what I can with a twisty, and the yoke makes every action feel like its in slow motion.  I've played for about three hours after FINALLY figuriing out how to set it up and I'm worse than a 2 weeker.

Edit: I can see how using a yoke can be alot more fun while flying a bomber.  It feels more genuine, each action more deliberate,  but there is a huge amount of travel that I can not seem to compensate for compared with my sidewinder precision pro. (The only stick I have ever used)

I used a CH Yoke Pro for a bit in Air Warrior, testing it out flying the P-38 and it performed just as well as any regular joystick.  It just took up too much desk room so I went back to my regular CH stick.  Also used the CH Pedals for a time as well to see how well the worked compared to the Pro Pedals but it wasn't as accurate in movement compared to the Pro Pedals for flying but were far better than the Pro Pedals for driving sims.

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Re: Confused about CH products
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2013, 08:28:12 PM »
I used a CH Yoke Pro for a bit in Air Warrior, testing it out flying the P-38 and it performed just as well as any regular joystick.  It just took up too much desk room so I went back to my regular CH stick.  Also used the CH Pedals for a time as well to see how well the worked compared to the Pro Pedals but it wasn't as accurate in movement compared to the Pro Pedals for flying but were far better than the Pro Pedals for driving sims.

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The sticker at the base says "pro pedals"  Maybe I found something old and crappy?  I'm really not sure what I have, and having logged probably over a thousand hours on the same and only stick, have I built habits that are hard to break?  or ...well I'm not sure really :uhoh

I see what you mean by the yoke being in the way.  It seriously gets in the way of my current setup (I am currently reaching around it to type ) :(

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Re: Confused about CH products
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2013, 11:33:51 PM »
I can't get anywhere with a twisty stick but I find my ch pedals give me some ability to point my nose where I want.  I'm always accidentally twisting and when I try to twist on purpose I get a bobbing PIO. I tried scaling etc. but I just don't have the knack. The control yoke is kinda cute but mine always suffered from the absence of a firm center.  Flying instrument approaches in an old simulator called on top, you kept having to wiggle it with your eye on the VSI to figure out where neutral was.
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