Aircraft and Vehicle Update #4

[Mister Fork]

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for everyone's help with recently added planes and vehicles to update our Aircraft and Vehicle Service Dates which SEA and AvA admins use to create our historical setups.  I've added the new aircraft we don't have any service date information. The only caviet we ask is to provide an official source to your information.  Unreferenced service dates cannot be used.   Also, if you know their entry to various theatres as well it would be appreciated.

Aircraft with missing dates are listed below and again thank-you for your assistance.

Aircraft and Vehcile Service Dates
LAST Updated: July 12, 2012

Aircraft
USA
Bomber
B-29 ?
Fighter
P-40C ?

Britain
Fighter
Sea Hurricane MkI ?
Spitfire MkII ?

Germany
Bomber
He-111H ?
Vehicle
Panzer IV F ?

Japan
Fighter
Ki-43-II ?

[Karnak]

Spitfire Mk II? Do you mean Seafire MkII or is there a Spitfire we don't know about?

[Nathan60]

Spitfire Mk II? Do you mean Seafire MkII?

Fixed, since you seem to not know how to be civil.

[Karnak]

Fixed, since you seem to not know how to be civil.

Not at all.  Sometimes players get wind of upcomming additions.  There was one poster who knew the He111 was coming way before HTC showed shots of it.  The Spitfire II could be added easily as it would share the 3D model of the Spitfire I just as the P-47M was cheap to add because it shared the 3D model of the P-47D-40.

We've also had the Seafire II for a long time and I was not aware of any controversy about its service dates.

Try not to jump to conclusions.

[Nathan60]

Sorry your track record speaks for itself.

[Arlo]

Fork, I'll be glad to help once I'm home from work and the current pillow fight ends. 

[Karnak]

Sorry your track record speaks for itself.

You don't seem to know what you are talking about.  You are making a lot of assumptions that aren't true based on your bias.  I don't know why you have a chip on your shoulder, but you ought to let it go.

[Karnak]

Per Spitfire: the History the maiden flight of a production Seafire Mk II was on 28 May 1942.  There had only been 50 delivered by October of 1942 with four squadrons in service.

[Nathan60]

You don't seem to know what you are talking about.  You are making a lot of assumptions that aren't true based on your bias.  I don't know why you have a chip on your shoulder, but you ought to let it go.

There ya go with your bias tossing. I think I have you cold.

[Karnak]

There ya go with your bias tossing. I think I have you cold.(Image removed from quote.)

Check the OP here:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,341310.0.html

Look for the Seafire.  It is already labeled.

I was not sure that Mister Fork was asking for the Seafire Mk II date to be reaffirmed.  Sue me for being hopeful that he had a lead on the Spitfire Mk II and Bf109E-7 being added soonish.  With the addition of the He111H it would have been a nice fleshing out of the BoB set, including giving the Spitfire and Bf109 some addional potency to demonstrate why they were the fighters that got continued development and not the Hurricane and Bf110.

Yes, the bias is yours as you are reading an insult into a place there was no insult.

[Nathan60]

Check the OP here:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,341310.0.html

Look for the Seafire.  It is already labeled.

I was not sure that Mister Fork was asking for the Seafire Mk II date to be reaffirmed.  Sue me for being hopeful that he had a lead on the Spitfire Mk II and Bf109E-7 being added soonish.

Yes, the bias is yours as you are reading an insult into a place there was no insult.

Sorry, if I did read an insult into it(this time) but the precident is there. Per your words in realtion to ava staff:

Yes, there is hostility now.

[Karnak]

Sorry, if I did read an insult into it(this time) but the precident is there.

Accepted.  I acknowledge that my disagreement with the AvA staff is not very civil, but I assure you it does not extend beyond that subject.  I actually don't have a problem with any of those guys outside of a very narrow range of opinions.

[Nathan60]

Accepted.  I acknowledge that my disagreement with the AvA staff is not very civil, but I assure you it does not extend beyond that subject.  I actually don't have a problem with any of those guys outside of a very narrow range of opinions.

So you can be civil but choose not to? You rail agaist other having a 'bias' and a 'chip on the shoulder' yet get upset when called for it yourself? Lets make a deal Ill take the chip off my shoulder if you get rid of yours.

[Karnak]

So you can be civil but choose not to? You rail agaist other having a 'bias' and a 'chip on the shoulder' yet get upset when called for it yourself? Lets make a deal Ill take the chip off my shoulder if you get rid of yours.

Consider it done.  No more negative AvA posts.

[Mister Fork]

DOH. Yeah, meant the Seafire MkII - wanted to verify the service date - thanks for picking up on that Karnak. Appreciated.

Ok Seafire MkII - May 1942
B-29 -
Ki-43 -
Sea Hurri -
He-111 - Sept 1939 (Janowicz, Krzysztof. Heinkel He 111: Volume 1. Lublin, Poland: Kagero. 2004). But we can limit weapon options to show earlier variants back to 1936 for the Spanish Civil war.