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Offline FLOOB

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incendiary machine gun ammo
« on: April 16, 2013, 08:46:17 PM »
I wish that when a player opts to turn off tracers that it would also decrease the incendiary affects of his mg ammo.
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Re: incendiary machine gun ammo
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2013, 08:52:15 PM »
I wish that when a player opts to turn off tracers that it would also decrease the incendiary affects of his mg ammo.


Does different ammo in AH have different incendiary capibilities?

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Re: incendiary machine gun ammo
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2013, 09:09:59 PM »
Actually makes sense, since less of the gross rds fired will be hissing willy pete..

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Re: incendiary machine gun ammo
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2013, 09:48:11 PM »
The American AP rounds are more incendiary than tracers, especially against Japanese aircraft.
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2013, 10:37:22 PM »
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Re: incendiary machine gun ammo
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2013, 08:46:20 AM »
I thought Brits used deWilde rounds, why would you choose to reduce their burniness?
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Re: incendiary machine gun ammo
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2013, 09:01:22 AM »
The American AP rounds are more incendiary than tracers, especially against Japanese aircraft.

I've always wondered about this, are the American .50cal rounds modeled as ball or API rounds?
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Re: incendiary machine gun ammo
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2013, 07:51:38 AM »
API rounds are the tracers. The white smoke trail you see is white phosphorus burning. As far as I'm aware all mg tracer ammo of that period used phosphorus. Even today, small arms tracer ammo is incendiary. I remember reading a quote from Charlie Beckwith lamenting that if he had brought any tracer ammo with him he would've shot the fuel tanks on the downed helicopters of the aborted iranian rescue mission with his rifle so that they would've started on fire.
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Re: incendiary machine gun ammo
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2013, 09:24:40 AM »
Tracers and API rounds are two entirely different things, Floob.

Tracers have a hollow base filled with a pyrotechnic material (usually phosphorous or magnesium) ignited on firing. API rounds have a small explosive charge at the tip that detonates after penetration.

You CAN have an API round that's also a tracer, but not all tracers are API.
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Re: incendiary machine gun ammo
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2013, 01:28:38 PM »
That's true. What I really mean is that tracers are incendiary ammo, even though in nomenclature incendiary ammo and tracer are two distinct types. Really any tracer is incendiary, be it an antique wp round or a modern magnesium round. If you shoot a can of gas with ball ammo you're just going to put a hole in it, if you shoot a can of gas with a tracer you're going to make a fire.
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Re: incendiary machine gun ammo
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2013, 07:16:59 PM »
That's true. What I really mean is that tracers are incendiary ammo, even though in nomenclature incendiary ammo and tracer are two distinct types. Really any tracer is incendiary, be it an antique wp round or a modern magnesium round. If you shoot a can of gas with ball ammo you're just going to put a hole in it, if you shoot a can of gas with a tracer you're going to make a fire.

I don't think the tracer ammo will ignite a gas can any better than a ball round. I saw an actual experiment on the History Channel a while back. I believe the gas caught on fire for both types of ammo. It was the vapor which catch fire and burns and not the liquid fuel itself. This would be the largest advantage of having self-sealing tanks. Self-sealing tanks may not self-seal as one may think, but they do prevent air pockets of vapor to easily ignite upon bullet strikes.

However, an incendiary round may only work if it gets lodged in a plane and stays there. It would continue to burn and melt other parts of the plane. If an incendiary round goes clean through a object it may not have anymore effect than a ball round. Many, many years ago I remember reading how Spit and Hurricane pilots would use different types of ammo in the same belt in hopes of downing a German fighter over Briton. The ammo could be a mixture of ball, tracers, armor piercing, incendiary, etc. An incendiary round may not take down a plan immediately, but it could stop a German plane from making it back across the Channel after catching fire.

I am just guessing and relaying a little from what I have seen and heard, but don't take my word as 100% true.

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Re: incendiary machine gun ammo
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2013, 12:11:54 AM »
I don't think the tracer ammo will ignite a gas can any better than a ball round.
It will, especially if it's WP.
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Re: incendiary machine gun ammo
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2013, 08:54:34 AM »
tracers....I never use em, I dont like the person im shooting at to see my bullets :rock
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2013, 08:59:59 AM »
tracers....I never use em, I dont like the person im shooting at to see my bullets :rock
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Re: incendiary machine gun ammo
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2013, 01:34:10 PM »
if you shoot a can of gas with a tracer you're going to make a fire.

you not watch mythbusters?

I seem to remember them not being able to get any such result with tracers.

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