Me-163

[sonic23]

Nope......everything was cool until your statement about ditching to deny a kill.

You landed zero hits on a pretty long engagement.

Don't put yourself into a situation in which that dweeb action would be the only way to "salvage the mission" and you won't have to deal with criticism.

You clearly stated your intent as seen in the screenshots.

I agree, but why are you so mad about something that never even happened i mean if its that tree ill go cut it down for you.

[VonMessa]

My wiener is bigger than your's.  

[Ack-Ack]

I agree, but why are you so mad about something that never even happened i mean if its that tree ill go cut it down for you.

 

ack-ack

[coombz]

tries to get kills by running opponent out of fuel instead of shooting them

calls someone else pathetic and a dweeb

 

[icepac]

I agree, but why are you so mad about something that never even happened i mean if its that tree ill go cut it down for you.

You're the one who felt the need to air the grievance on the forums.

I was cool letting it lie until you posted a thread.

And coombz.......shouldn't you be celebrating at parliament today?

[coombz]

And coombz.......shouldn't you be celebrating at parliament today?

[Volron]

 

[Zacherof]

HajajaJAHAHajaj

[BaldEagl]

Here's how I see it:

There was no need for icepac to call Sonic a dweeb, no need for a PM exchange and no need for Sonic to start this thread to rub it in icepac's face.

It looks to me like there's plenty of dweebery to go around.  It' s game.  Whatever happens get over it and play some more or log off.

Now ArchieD on the other hand deserves ridicule.

[sonic23]

Here's how I see it:

There was no need for icepac to call Sonic a dweeb, no need for a PM exchange and no need for Sonic to start this thread to rub it in icepac's face.

It looks to me like there's plenty of dweebery to go around.  It' s game.  Whatever happens get over it and play some more or log off.

Now ArchieD on the other hand deserves ridicule.

I still would like to know where the 163 stands as a turn fighter though, i think its safe to say icepac has retracted his statement about the 163, saying he had a hard time turning with a 109g2 which is far from the greatest turner in the game.

[Debrody]

i think its safe to say icepac has retracted his statement about the 163, saying he had a hard time turning with a 109g2 which is far from the greatest turner in the game.

Icepac did not say that, and i think im not icepac. As far as i know.
I posted that to answer your opening question and to clarify that icepac's statement was a nonsense.

[sonic23]

Icepac did not say that, and i think im not icepac. As far as i know.
I posted that to answer your opening question and to clarify that icepac's statement was a nonsense.

My bad debrody, For some reason i thought it was icepac who said that lol. At first i was like what is debrody talking about hah but Thank You for clearing that up

[Wmaker]

I still would like to know where the 163 stands as a turn fighter though,

I haven't done any testing but experience tells me that Brewster/Ki-43 will have a smaller turn radius in situations what most people here would consider "normal". Altitude is one thing that obviously matters. If we held a turning contest between Komet and a Brewster at Brewster's practical ceiling (or higher ) where it can barely turn if it tries to maintain constant altitude, Komet would obviously win.


One general note on the Komet...

The changes in the amount of fuel on board at the moment and during the turn made affects Komet more than any other fighter in the game. It carries massive ~4450lbs (!!) of fuel which is ~50% of its take off weight. For comparison, Brewster carries 960lbs of fuel which is "only" 17% (and that is actually quite a bit compared to many other fighters) of its take off weight.

[icepac]

I stand by my dweeb comment because of his stating he would simply ditch to deny a kill to the person who earned it by fighting him.

I saluted him after his victory and he PM'd me asking why I was there.........which should have been obvious since I attacked him.

I told him that dragging a 163 from safe landing is part of any 163 hunt and that's when he made the "ditch to deny kill" statement.

Sonic23 had the option of not posting a thread naming me but he chose otherwise and all here commenting should remember that fact.

Coombz and Dolby are simply haters who travel in tandem to wherever I post on these forums to stir things up.

In this case it was a spit VIII that had 50 minutes fuel remaining at 35,000 feet when the fight started.

I kept the fight fast knowing that blacking out would be the limiting factor in a turn fight which equals things out a bit until you run out off altitude in the lesser powered plane.

Not sure what fuel remaining was at lower altitudes because I was kind of busy fighting a 163.

Try the 163 with lots of flaps, full elevator trim (letter k held until trim full up), low fuel, and high power settings to drag you around and you will find it can fly an amazingly small turn circle.

I am unaware of the changes to the 163 and when they occurred so some clarification would help this discussion on 163 flight modeling.

I'm really surprised so many here don't know this or have never explored the flight model of the 163 as I have.

I've flown the 163 to 97,000 feet, 900mph, and flown 10 sectors in one ending in a safe landing so there is a lot more to this plane than most understand.

Try it out as described above and report back your findings instead of yelling "foul" without having done the research to properly arrive at that conclusion.

I don't expect the guys who fly LA7s around never getting above 10k feet to understand the amount of fun that can be had from these encounters.

[Zacherof]

I still would like to know where the 163 stands as a turn fighter though, i think its safe to say icepac has retracted his statement about the 163, saying he had a hard time turning with a 109g2 which is far from the greatest turner in the game.

the G2 turns rather well actually. 
it's not a spit but she can stay with alot of planes