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Offline Nypsy

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BAGRAM 747 CRASH
« on: April 30, 2013, 02:44:46 PM »
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Offline LCADolby

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Re: BAGRAM 747 CRASH
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2013, 02:47:50 PM »
Goodness me. Speechless.
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Offline RedBull1

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Re: BAGRAM 747 CRASH
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2013, 02:49:52 PM »
Sickening, prayers go out to the families.

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Re: BAGRAM 747 CRASH
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2013, 02:54:23 PM »
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Re: BAGRAM 747 CRASH
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2013, 04:05:58 PM »
Speach less
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Re: BAGRAM 747 CRASH
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2013, 04:12:44 PM »
 :frown:

Appears to be too heavy, or trying to climb too fast, or engine failure? 

Sad deal.
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Offline RTHolmes

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Re: BAGRAM 747 CRASH
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2013, 04:18:58 PM »
nasty, they had a long time to appreciate how that was going to play out. unsecured cargo?
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Offline Chalenge

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Re: BAGRAM 747 CRASH
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2013, 04:46:49 PM »
Just rumors at this point, but the transport company's internal speculation is that one of the MRP's was either loaded incorrectly or shifted in flight.
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Offline Tracerfi

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Re: BAGRAM 747 CRASH
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2013, 04:49:19 PM »
 :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :uhoh
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Offline icepac

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Re: BAGRAM 747 CRASH
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2013, 05:07:08 PM »
My bud does that flight for evergreen on a 747 and he thinks it was a load shift that caused AFT CG making recovery nearly impossible.

It looks like they went full stick forward and were probably cranking the trim in addition to the alternate trim to get enough authority to get the nose down.........which don't move very fast or they might have recovered with enough altitude.
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Re: BAGRAM 747 CRASH
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2013, 09:56:15 PM »
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Offline eagl

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Re: BAGRAM 747 CRASH
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2013, 10:22:41 PM »
Ugh.  Nose high power on stall right after takeoff...  Could be a few causes, none of which really mattered to the crew.  I do hope they find out the problem so maybe it could prevent it from happening to another flight.

Still...
Trim incorrectly set for takeoff
Flight control or hydraulic malfunction
Uncommanded elevator movement
Incorrect CG before takeoff
Load shift after takeoff
Elevator failed to move for whatever reason (not sure if these things have control locks?)
Physical damage suffered on the ground or shortly after takeoff leading to flight control malfunction
Pilot error
Pilot seat shifts aft at rotation and pilot doesn't release controls (I talked to someone who saw a Cessna 172 do this on takeoff...)

Many of these can probably be ruled out (or confirmed) by wreckage analysis.  Not a fun job though, made more difficult by the location.
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Re: BAGRAM 747 CRASH
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2013, 10:30:35 PM »
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Offline jigsaw

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Re: BAGRAM 747 CRASH
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2013, 01:42:53 AM »
Speculation/theories over on a pilot board are that a weather event caused the nose to pitch up, which caused a load shift, which caused a stall.

In other news...  locally there was a midair between two 172s. One made it down on a golf course. Other augered.  Sad couple of days in aviation.

RIP and prayers.
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Re: BAGRAM 747 CRASH
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2013, 04:50:26 AM »
Nightmarish.
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