Ki-84's and extreme diving...

[Perrine]

Is the all-metal Ki-84 shedding elevators at @ 450 IAS dive have any "historical" basis?
I mean, even 109G-14 with wooden tail in this game can still do extreme dives without shedding its tail off.

[Zacherof]

Could have swore I just saw this somewhere

[Arlo]

Probably needs tweeking. That and add the collapsing landing gear problem. 

[Masherbrum]

Probably needs tweeking. That and add the collapsing landing gear problem. 

The landing gear was due to the way the Japanese "heat-treated" the the High-Strength Steel.    Also, I am almost positive that the 84 had fabric covered control surfaces.

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it does not shed parts at 450.....I have thousands of hours in it, pieces come off at a little over 500 right around 505.

this is without pulling back on the stick....if you are doing 450 and yak the stick back going to 6-7 G's then ya I can see it happening sooner....

in all the time I have in the KI I have had pieces come off 3 times....all in the very early days.

if you are doing that kind of speeds in the Ki.......you are doing it wrong.

[Zacherof]

Been meaning to say this but I like the skins ink

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Been meaning to say this but I like the skins ink

thank ya man

[Ack-Ack]

Also, I am almost positive that the 84 had fabric covered control surfaces.

You are correct sir.

[SIK1]

The covering has very little to do with the aircraft shedding pieces at high speed. The corsair had fabric covered ailerons as well as fabric covered rudder and elevators. and it will do well over 500 mph in a dive without losing either the ailerons, rudder, or elevators.

[Dragon]

Apples to Oranges.

Or in this case, Levis denim to Oriental rugs. 

[Oldman731]

Is the all-metal Ki-84 shedding elevators at @ 450 IAS dive have any "historical" basis?

Just out of curiosity...why would you ever go that fast in a Frank...?

- oldman

[Mitsu]

Is the all-metal Ki-84 shedding elevators at @ 450 IAS dive have any "historical" basis?
I mean, even 109G-14 with wooden tail in this game can still do extreme dives without shedding its tail off.

Actually the Ki-84 was not so strong body because Nakajima designed it a lighter.
Also it had "nose up" effect to avoid disintegrating in midair when it tries a high-speed dive.

According to army Ki-84 manual, a dive speed limit of Ki-84 was 750km/h (446mph).
But, IJAAF pilot reported it can dive at 850km/h (520mph) without breaking up.
It seems the manual's dive speed limit has a margin, so it may be tweaked higher in the game.

I remembered that Mr. Busa said he might send a information about it to HTC.
Currently I have no contact to him though.

[Slash27]

Just out of curiosity...why would you ever go that fast in a Frank...?

- oldman

Chasing Ponys

[Perrine]

Just out of curiosity...why would you ever go that fast in a Frank...?

- oldman

To chase down the top 3 planes that I usually encounter in MA but totally avoid me while flying '84.

- runstangs
- lil Doras
- Lavochkins

According to army Ki-84 manual, a dive speed limit of Ki-84 was 750km/h (446mph).
But, IJAAF pilot reported it can dive at 850km/h (520mph) without breaking up.
It seems the manual's dive speed limit has a margin, so it may be tweaked higher in the game.

If that's realized in the next patch or version then '84 will surely earn a place in the pantheon of ENY-5 planes.

[Butcher]

Chasing Ponys

I made a fatal mistake of dumping alt to chase a pony tonight, I of course didn't catch him - however I got my first whine about Ki-84s being able to dive with "ponys" on 200.

When you dive in a straight line, of course a ki-84 can stay with you - up to 500 and without turning.

Then again said person forgot this basic little rule before he blacked out pulling his stick hard as possible and plowing a corn field.