SDKFZ 251 with the 75mm cannon

[Tank-Ace]

As of late, HTC added the P40's and Hurricanes all in one shot.   

Oh, and I too think adding the /9 (7.5cm Infantry support gun), /22 (triple 20mm AA), and /22 (7.5cm AT gun would be a great idea.  Comparatively, they would be easier to add than adding an completely new gv.  The chassis is complete and most of the upper frame is complete, just the front of the rear compartment would need modeled.  Obviously, the weapon mounts too.  The guns are all already in AH as well.    

Most are, anyway. We would still need the 37mm..... And that would likely mean some Panzer IIIs as our next GVs, since we have three of the four guns they used.

[SmokinLoon]

Most are, anyway. We would still need the 37mm..... And that would likely mean some Panzer IIIs as our next GVs, since we have three of the four guns they used.

Panzer III's used the following guns:
37mm Kw.K. 36 L / 46.5
50mm Kw.K. 38 L / 42
50mm Kw.K. 39 L / 60
75mm Kw.K. 37 L / 24

Then also in the StG III platform (same chassis):
75mm Stu.K. 37 L / 24
75mm Stu.K. 40 L / 43
75mm Stu.K. 42 L / 48

Anything to add more pieces to the puzzle would be fine by me (no more super tanks, though).  Obviously, adding in more SdKfz 251 variants would be the easiest, then adding in the Panzer III chassis as a base then filling in the different guns (similar to what we have with the current Panzer IV F), then adding in the StG III with the various guns.  Etc.

[Arlo]

[Mister Fork]

+1 for more SDKFZ Y M O U S E  variants.


Seriously.

[Denniss]

Panzer III's used the following guns:
Then also in the StG III platform (same chassis):

StuGs used a similar chassis (modified), you forgot the 105mm Sturmhaubitze 42 and the 150mm sIG 33
BTW some old publications mention a 75mm L/34 or so gun, they were fooled by censored images with partally washed-out gun barrel.

[R 105]

 The 251 with a 75mm gun would be good but it has no armor protection. The Stug III & IV Gs would be very welcome along with the Hetzer 38s. The assault gun was the most numerous of German armored vehicles.  I like other light vehicles like the Schwerer Sd.KFz.234/4 with the PaK40 75mm gun or the speedy Sd.KFz.222 armored car with the 20mm. There are other light tanks like the Czech made Pz.Kpfw. 38T that was used to build many other vehicles. German armor was fascinating because they built so many types and must have been a nightmare for supply & logistics. 

[tmetal]

Pictures from a Chino airshow about 6 years ago:

a look at the single 20mm version


And, it is a little backed up from the normal driving position but you can still tell that the field fo vision was terrible for the driver


and while we are wishing for more axis GVs, can I haz dis won two??

[SmokinLoon]

StuGs used a similar chassis (modified), you forgot the 105mm Sturmhaubitze 42 and the 150mm sIG 33
BTW some old publications mention a 75mm L/34 or so gun, they were fooled by censored images with partally washed-out gun barrel.

Ah, my bad.  I thought the '42 was based on the Panzer IV chassis and not the III.  I've seen the "L/34" published, but never really gave it much thought.

[SmokinLoon]

The 251 with a 75mm gun would be good but it has no armor protection. The Stug III & IV Gs would be very welcome along with the Hetzer 38s. The assault gun was the most numerous of German armored vehicles.  I like other light vehicles like the Schwerer Sd.KFz.234/4 with the PaK40 75mm gun or the speedy Sd.KFz.222 armored car with the 20mm. There are other light tanks like the Czech made Pz.Kpfw. 38T that was used to build many other vehicles. German armor was fascinating because they built so many types and must have been a nightmare for supply & logistics. 

Good point, but the M18 is as vulnerable as it gets as well.     I see the SdKfZ 251/22 armed with the 7.5cm Pak40 a far bigger threat than most give it credit for.  The gun is no push over, it has superior AP ability compared to everything but the Tiger, Panther, Firefly, and King Tiger.  It would cost nothing to use besides.  Used in conjunction with other thanks and a spotter, it would hold its own in a defensive battle.     

[ReVo]

+1000 to the 251 with a 75mm! Might be enough to get me to start GVing. 

[sparky1]

+1

[alpini13]

 

[Rob52240]

Which would be a plus considering the Sdkfz rarely gets used as a troop carrier or bombard for towns.

I would +1 this, but I much rather have the Puma first.

I prefer the 251 for hauling troops while moving with tanks.  A lot of the time you wont even get strafed.

[SmokinLoon]

I prefer the 251 for hauling troops while moving with tanks.  A lot of the time you wont even get strafed.

I dont know what it is for sure, but I'm guessing the sloped armor of the -251 allows it to have a wee bit better ability to shrug off MG rounds from aircraft.  I like the -251, the 32mph top speed is what makes it take a back seat to the M3.  That, and that it can't take but more than 4 gv supplies which I I believe is to limit the 28cm rockets.  Obviously, there is no need for that since the 28cm rockets are far too difficult to be successful with (highly vulnerable carrier and VERY difficult to aim effectively).  The -251 would be one of those gv's that would greatly benefit from having the Storch as a spotter. 

[Eric19]

I dont know what it is for sure, but I'm guessing the sloped armor of the -251 allows it to have a wee bit better ability to shrug off MG rounds from aircraft.  I like the -251, the 32mph top speed is what makes it take a back seat to the M3.  That, and that it can't take but more than 4 gv supplies which I I believe is to limit the 28cm rockets.  Obviously, there is no need for that since the 28cm rockets are far too difficult to be successful with (highly vulnerable carrier and VERY difficult to aim effectively).  The -251 would be one of those gv's that would greatly benefit from having the Storch as a spotter. 

the rockets are very useful against towns and such I've even killed a tank or 2 with the lower angle rockets its very fun