One determined dog...

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those statistics are facts..not opinions. View the very last fact about pitbulls in 2012 ( I even highlighted it in red for you) "Caused 61% of dog related deaths and only make up less than 5% of total dog population".

But I apologize, I have steered this thread off course.


Back on topic.....
Cool Dog every family with little kids should have at least one! 

sorry but those "statistics" are not facts in anyway shape or form.

the real American Pittbull Terrier is a very rare dog.....

the "pittbuls" that are causing those bites are NOT the American Pittbull Terrier.....
 they were at one time many years ago, due to improper breeding and wanting to make them guard dogs(which the true APBT is the worst guard dog due to its love of people and even strangers)

they are no longer the same dog

you will be hard pressed to find a true American Pittbull Terrier today.

that is Fact.....do some reading if interested

the APBT became the American Staffordshire terrier.....
when owners wanted to breed for the show ring, they stopped breeding for the fight ring, the dogs then lost all that made APBTs Great....

you can actually duel register Amstaffs(American Staffordshire) as APBT.....

and they are very far from being the same dog.

[Zacherof]

And that ladies and gentleman is what a curve ball is

I didn't know that ink. In that case what the he'll kind of breed is bein coined as a"pitbull"

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well I would say American Staffordshire Terriers is the most predominant breed, mixed with American Bulldog, Mastiffs, the bull Mastiff

the true APBT

was a dog that at fight weight was 45 lbs.......a huge male would have been 65 lbs.......
they were not heavily built, the big ones could not last in the ring so they were breed small, the smaller the better to a point...45 lbs is optimum

they made the worst guard dogs because they breed them to specifically hate dogs and Love people....strangers would get into the ring and work on a injured dog he needed to be people friendly.....hence the name the "nanny dog" which is actually referring to the "English Staffordshire terriers" which is were the American Pittbull terriers come from.....and from them came the american Staffordshire....which were NOT breed for the fighting ring but the show ring...so they stopped picking the fighters but started picking the bigger ones the more perfect looking ones....they also added other breeds to get bigger dogs...."bigger is better"

 for the last say 70 years or so...which is quite a long time in a dog line...more then enough time to separate the breed.

also you don't "train" a true American Pittbull Terrier to want to fight....they want to do it from their breeding...

only fighting dogs were breed...the ones that wanted to fight....the would never attack a person.

I love the American Pittbull Terrier they are much like me.

[Zacherof]

Now you got me reading up on dog lineage



Looks like I need to paws on the forum. Kinda ruff reading and typing, like
fur real

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Now you got me reading up on dog lineage



Looks like I need to paws on the forum. Kinda ruff reading and typing, like
fur real

 

[SilverZ06]

sorry but those "statistics" are not facts in anyway shape or form.

the real American Pittbull Terrier is a very rare dog.....

the "pittbuls" that are causing those bites are NOT the American Pittbull Terrier.....
 they were at one time many years ago, due to improper breeding and wanting to make them guard dogs(which the true APBT is the worst guard dog due to its love of people and even strangers)

they are no longer the same dog

you will be hard pressed to find a true American Pittbull Terrier today.

that is Fact.....do some reading if interested

the APBT became the American Staffordshire terrier.....
when owners wanted to breed for the show ring, they stopped breeding for the fight ring, the dogs then lost all that made APBTs Great....

you can actually duel register Amstaffs(American Staffordshire) as APBT.....

and they are very far from being the same dog.

I
Ink where the *bleep* have you been? I baited your hook 3 pages ago  . Anyway, whether or not these are true APBT is a moot point as you have said the breed has changed away from the APBT, however these dogs are still known as "pitbulls" and they are killing people at an alarming rate.

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I
Ink where the *bleep* have you been? I baited your hook 3 pages ago  . Anyway, whether or not these are true APBT is a moot point as you have said the breed has changed away from the APBT, however these dogs are still known as "pitbulls" and they are killing people at an alarming rate.

other things on my mind

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[Zacherof]

Hmmmm this thread just gave me a idea....

[smoe]

I would like to see the statistics for number of serious attacks without fatalities. How many people get their face ripped off and live?

[SilverZ06]

I would like to see the statistics for number of serious attacks without fatalities. How many people get their face ripped off and live?

scroll down to see the chart
http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-study-dog-attacks-and-maimings-merritt-clifton.php

[MarineUS]

I don't own any "pitts" but I've got four relatives that breed them. I spend a lot of time with these dogs and all of them are agitating. Not because they are mean or loud....but because I can't sit on the couch without them trying to sit in my lap. >.<

What I see with pitts that grinds my gears is when I see one and I know the owner fights it (the scars all over and how they treat the dog), but even then I haven't seen one go after someone without provocation.

A dog is like a man.

If it is fed, it is happy.
If it is loved, it is happy.
If it gets to sleep when it wants, it is happy.

The bigotry is too damn high. 

[mtnman]

The bigotry is too damn high. 

Of course it is!

That's because this is a near-perfect topic to see it show up on both sides of the argument!

[BiPoLaR]

You can argue with a
man all day but you can. Argue with statistics and they don't lie.

The last few
points were rather surprising. And 60%? woe that's watermelon cray

You're so far from reality. Its not the breed, its the breeder and how they are raised.
My pit was an extremely violent monster when I rescued him from the animal shelter. Why? Because the moron who owned him had him CHAINED up in the yard. He was raised up to be aggressive. Hell, it took me 3 days to even get near him alone. Now, well, he is the best and most loving animal I have ever seen. Dogs are no different than we are. They know and act how they are taught to. And you'll eventually get the occasional inbred retard.

Now before you go throwing worthless BS stats around. Make sure you add the ones that show the ones that are inbred and how they were raised.

[SilverZ06]

I don't own any "pitts" but I've got four relatives that breed them. I spend a lot of time with these dogs and all of them are agitating. Not because they are mean or loud....but because I can't sit on the couch without them trying to sit in my lap. >.<

What I see with pitts that grinds my gears is when I see one and I know the owner fights it (the scars all over and how they treat the dog), but even then I haven't seen one go after someone without provocation.

A dog is like a man.

If it is fed, it is happy.
If it is loved, it is happy.
If it gets to sleep when it wants, it is happy.
If your infant child cries it will brutally maul them to death
If your wife goes out for a nice jog a pack of men will brutally kill her


The bigotry is too damn high. 

You're probably right, Just because you've never seen one attack obviously must mean it never happens. I mean your cousins Jimbo and Bobby-Joe raise them and those dogs would never harm a flea. I'm sure all those 30year long studies are all made up by those damn breedist! (Breedist is my new made up word for a dog breed racist).  

[BiPoLaR]

You're probably right, Just because you've never seen one attack obviously must mean it never happens. I mean your cousins Jimbo and Bobby-Joe raise them and those dogs would never harm a flea. I'm sure all those 30year long studies are all made up by those damn breedist! (Breedist is my new made up word for a dog breed racist).  

People that breed dogs are morons. Its that simple. Too many poor animals dying every single day because you have some greedy idiot breeding an already over bred animal.