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Offline SEraider

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Another "buying a Dell Computer question"
« on: May 20, 2013, 08:29:11 PM »
So, is the 3rd gen Intel Core i7-3770 Processor 3.4 GHz necessary or is the 3rd Generation Intel Core i5-3350P Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.1 GHz).

Yes I did copy and paste.  But it's a question of the I7 vs the I5.  I just want to run aces high essentially.  Maybe a little Netflix too.

Any input would be welcome.  I am not a computer person.
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Re: Another "buying a Dell Computer question"
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2013, 09:06:54 PM »
If AH is the only game you play, the i5 is more than enough. Netflix shouldn't be a problem either although that's more dependent on your Internet speed.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Another "buying a Dell Computer question"
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2013, 09:22:14 PM »
you won't need hyperthreading so the i5 would be good but, don't get one from dell...
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Re: Another "buying a Dell Computer question"
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2013, 01:41:10 PM »
you won't need hyperthreading so the i5 would be good but, don't get one from dell...

What do you recommend?  I'm open minded.  :salute
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Re: Another "buying a Dell Computer question"
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2013, 01:54:24 PM »
going to depend entirely on your budget...

build your own is the best option but the price can be higher than a dell...unless you count all the time and money that will need to be spent on getting a dell to the point where it will run aces high well, then the dell will cost you more.

buy one from a builder that specializes in gaming pc's...very expensive but, if you have the money and not the time, best option.
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Re: Another "buying a Dell Computer question"
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2013, 02:47:22 PM »
What Gyrene said, plus some food for thought:

I don't know about warranty laws in your whereabouts, here in Finland the consumer is protected by law for at least two years for manufacturing or material defect concerning products that are supposed to last more than just mere months or so and cost a noticeable amount of money - meaning almost anything. Basically even a €20 dvd drive falls into that category. Even when there's a sticker on the bottom of a <brand> laptop saying the warranty is for one year only, they automatically extend it to two or even more if you threaten them with authorities. The same consumer protection covers the whole chain: Major brand manufacturers, small builders, shops, any kind of business. Check your local law.

If you buy the components separately for DIY, you might get extremely long warranty time for some and less for some other parts. Although most of the time they seem rock solid no matter what, sometimes a tiny spark of static electricity can fry a component. In that case it'd be your fault and out of warranty. If that should happen to a professional builder, they'd have to suffer the damage.

There's lots of reputable builders in the Internet, giving perhaps a base model which you can modify from a drop-down menu. They should know that those who do their shopping in the net know the price range quite well, which should keep their component prices on a decent level. Local builder/component shops have long known the same. I like the locals, you can always take a baseball bat with you if they try to pee you into the eye. OTOH a larger company has a bigger name to lose, so choosing a reliable builder always means some homework. What I'd like best would be a local subsidiary of a bigger company, getting volume discounts and taking care of their reputation, thus giving you both a decent price and good quality.

The question, how much is much, depends on whom you ask. I just did a quick calculation from a major local netshop/-builder for a mid class i5+radeon7770 rig and it looked as the price of the components would be very close to their ready built option. Compare, compare, compare, and when you think you've found something, put the compilation here for evaluation.

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Re: Another "buying a Dell Computer question"
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2013, 03:48:51 PM »
I work for a US federal office, and lately, our PC budget has been pretty small.  So we buy Dell PCs because they are cheap.  However, something like 25% of them are DOA.  They won't even boot, fresh out of the box.  I would NEVER, EVER buy one for my own use at home.  <hock-ptooooie!>


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Re: Another "buying a Dell Computer question"
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2013, 01:57:38 AM »
Yet one thing to think about:

If you build and install the computer yourself, you'd learn a lot about how a computer works and how to get the best out of it. The value of that knowledge is not limited into gaming. The same principles apply to any task, be it just surfing and mailing, or perhaps optimizing the rig for serious music making.

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Re: Another "buying a Dell Computer question"
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2013, 02:44:02 PM »
I have an i5-3570k...works great.
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Re: Another "buying a Dell Computer question"
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2013, 05:45:08 PM »
No don't buy a dell!!!
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Re: Another "buying a Dell Computer question"
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2013, 02:31:44 PM »
Every Dell I have bought worked out of the box with no problems - for years.  That includes 3 desktops for me and 3 laptops for kids in college.  As to your question, the i5 is considered best bang for the buck in the gaming world.  I think the i7 adds hyperthreading which is not necessary to most (all?) games today.  If you want to buy a computer that walks in the door and works, Dell isn't a bad place to look.  That said, I built my own this time around because dell didn't have what I wanted for the price I wanted to pay.  Plus you don't know what power supply you're getting, how good the cooling is, and what the motherboard specs are.  When it comes time to upgrade a component, you may find the power supply won't run your new video card, or the card won't fit on the mb, or something.  I didn't see any desktops from dell that offered an i5 3570K, 600+W seasonic power supply, and an AMD 7870 vid card or the NVidia equivalent.  Forget specifying a motherboard.  Those were the chief components I specced out.  Other ready builts would put something like that together, but at a cost.  I built my own and saved at least $200, have exactly what I want, and I know my computer inside and out, should I ever want to upgrade.

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Re: Another "buying a Dell Computer question"
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2013, 02:34:20 PM »
No don't buy a dell!!!

What about HP, Compaq?  I heard they are worse...
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Re: Another "buying a Dell Computer question"
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2013, 05:42:59 PM »
What about HP, Compaq?  I heard they are worse...
worse than dell? at one time (before hp acquired the company) compaq was crap. now hp/compaq is just stupider at times. you can get custom builds from hp/compaq just like you do with dell...they all have limitations.
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Re: Another "buying a Dell Computer question"
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2013, 12:03:21 AM »
worse than dell? at one time (before hp acquired the company) compaq was crap. now hp/compaq is just stupider at times. you can get custom builds from hp/compaq just like you do with dell...they all have limitations.

HP now produces cheap consumer laptops (DV7) which are locked down to HP version of WIn8 through bios. The system doesn't allow you to install an another version of Windows, only the HP custom version which reads the product key straight from bios works. I've seen reports of people fighting with this up to great frustration.

The sad fact is that all OEM manufacturers produce nothing but overpriced crap. If you think you get a good deal on something you can be 100% sure that the components inside the case are not worth even 50% of the price you paid in the reality. Nothing beats a homebuild in price/quality ratio.
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Re: Another "buying a Dell Computer question"
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2013, 08:09:33 AM »
SEraider...seriously...if I can build a computer, ANYONE can. A budget of $1k-$1.5k will provide an excellent gaming rig that can me modified and upgraded in the future.

Here's a list of items I'me putting together for a rebuild of the computer I built in '08

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy bridge 3.4 GHz $219.99
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series (2 x 4 GB 240 pin DDR3 - $79.99
Asus P8Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb's USB 3.0 ATX Intel MOBO - $134.99
Seagate Constellation I TB 7200 SATA - $114.99 (budget cut from SSD)
Sapphire Radeon  7850-OC 2 GB - $185.99
Cooler Master Hyper 212 - $36.99

Other items you'll need, case, power supply, DVD burner, sound card and OS.

It shouldn't take more than 5 or so hours to build the box, plus an hour or two for OS installation. PM me if I can assist.

Don't buy a Dell.