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Offline danny76

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I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« on: May 22, 2013, 02:11:31 PM »
Two machete and axe wielding men attacked and killed a military cadet in broad daylight in London today, chanting Allah U Akhbar and doing their best to get their pictures taken before they were shot by armed officers. Both survived. Here's hoping they spend the rest of their scummy lives in abject pain. I would place money on the bet that they are both recidivist benefit claimants as well as being weak minded cowards.

There will come a time in the not too distant future when good people of free countries will refuse to accept that these abhorrent fundamentalist actions go unpunished.
 
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 02:19:12 PM »
Targeted because he was wearing a "Help For Heroes" T shirt.

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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 02:30:43 PM »
I am proud to be British by the way :old:
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 02:35:55 PM »
Zack, you are AWESOMELY British!

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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2013, 02:47:55 PM »
Have you considered a career in journalism danny? :aok  Your post reads like a Daily Mail article.

There will come a time in the not too distant future when good people of free countries will refuse to accept that these abhorrent fundamentalist actions go unpunished.

Do these kind of actions normally go unpunished then?  :headscratch: Or am I interpreting your post wrong?

Are we expecting these scumbags to get away scot free? That would be messed up.
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2013, 02:56:32 PM »

There will come a time in the not too distant future when good people of free countries will refuse to accept that these abhorrent fundamentalist actions go unpunished.
 

Are you anticipating this will go unpunished?

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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2013, 02:59:09 PM »
disgusting. but it was only a matter of time, and it wont be the last by a long way. things will get very ugly here quicker than most realise.


Do these kind of actions normally go unpunished then?  :headscratch:

you havent been keeping up with sentencing guidelines have you? David McGreavy is due for release soon, been spotted sauntering around liverpool on unsupervised day release ...
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2013, 03:02:05 PM »
Terrible,  :salute and prayers go out to the young cadet  :pray
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2013, 03:03:14 PM »
Pretty horrible crime, and very sad.  Fortunately the perpetrators have already been captured, shot by police in the process.  If they live, I suspect they'll get a fair bit more punishment.  I spent last year with the British army in Leicester and as part of my duties worked quite closely with the large Islamic community there.  Though it shouldn't have to be said I'll say it anyway - the vast majority are vehemently against this.

Our thoughts are with the young soldier's family.
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2013, 03:04:12 PM »
you havent been keeping up with sentencing guidelines have you? David McGreavy is due for release soon, been spotted sauntering around liverpool on unsupervised day release ...

if he is due for release then that would suggest he has been incarcerated, which most people think is a form of punishment

don't get me wrong though - personally i'd prefer it if we had the death penalty for scum like him, and the b**tards mentioned in the OP. don't want to stray off topic, but i also don't want anyone to think that i am in agreement with the trend for disgustingly light sentences these days
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2013, 03:07:34 PM »
Not necessarily unpunished in this case, although there may well be some morally challenged lawyer that squeezes them through the door of reasonable doubt. No, what I predict is that people will begin acting pre-emptorily,and I am.not talking EDF idiots here, I am saying if you walk down the streets with the obvious intention of causing death or injury, if you intend to damage the interests of the nation, if you preach fundamentalist religious doctrine in order to incite violence, then before long it will not be liberal politically correct court system that deeks to punish you, it wil be a hairy angry mob that will ensure you are stopped without the luxury afforded to you of due process.
And Coombz, I never read newspapers, and feel a bit afronted that you would compare me to the sensationalist claptrap and hero worship that deem.prevalent in most modern journalism.
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2013, 03:22:53 PM »
you've got the tone just right ;)

it'd be a great thing, imo, if people would step in more often when someone has 'the obvious intention of causing death or injury'...or even for situations such as a simple mugging.  too often you see or hear of people just standing by and watching when things like that happen...i'm not sure if it's a product of the lawsuit happy times we live in, or simple human nature...

on the other hand, justice via mob can be a terrible thing too, when you consider how stupid we can be when in large, righteously angry groups. there was that random woman who co-incidentally had the same name as the girlfriend of that f**ker who killed the two little girls in his bathroom...narrowly escaped death by mob...or the paediatrician who was attacked by retarded vigilantes

if we wholly embrace the kind of pre-emptive action you are talking about then a lot of innocent people will suffer along with the bad ones...and that would make us just as blinded by ignorance and hatred as the people we are getting up in arms about

hope that makes sense i had to scribble it in a rush as i'm off to work  :salute
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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2013, 03:24:00 PM »
Though it shouldn't have to be said I'll say it anyway - the vast majority are vehemently against this.

Really? So we wont get the usual deafening wall of silence this time then ... I wont hold my breath.


edit: btw I currently live in the middle of one of these communities, and when I popped out to pick up some food earlier I heard 3 young men talking about it. They found it most amusing.
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2013, 03:56:53 PM »
oooh, another incident to bring hunting season a little closer...can't wait.

over here across the pond that would have gotten a lot more press and the po po would be worried about civilian retribution (which they would label a "hate crime" as if the original offense wasn't).
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2013, 04:13:53 PM »
The fact that he was killed by 2 men for no reason is the crime here. Not that they were screaming Allahu akhbar.
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