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Offline zack1234

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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2013, 01:18:32 PM »
Yes!


So from you perception of religion Adolf Hitler and the national socialist were religious :old:
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2013, 01:57:57 PM »
Quote from: zack1234 on May 23, 2013, 01:18:32 PM
Yes!


So from you perception of religion Adolf Hitler and the national socialist were religious :old:
considering the word fuhrer not only means "leader" but also "guide" and, an imam is a religious leader and guide...digging really deep into dummyville, i suppose one could assume that.

i'm not that naive though. i happen to know and understand that for some people religious fervor is a powerful tool in controlling the weak of mind.
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2013, 02:05:19 PM »
More open CCW laws would have stopped this. The victim might be alive, and someone would be loading two more bullets.
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2013, 02:25:53 PM »
"Weak minds" is  probably a better description of these types of individuals not criminals :old:
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2013, 02:30:44 PM »
The criminals are in custody, the investigation is underway.  Perhaps, out of respect for the young soldier's family, we should not use this tragedy to advance political points.
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #50 on: May 23, 2013, 02:33:04 PM »
I agree when people start being political  :old:
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #51 on: May 23, 2013, 02:41:24 PM »
Quote from: zack1234 on May 23, 2013, 02:25:53 PM
"Weak minds" is  probably a better description of these types of individuals not criminals :old:
agreed...



Quote from: Stellaris on May 23, 2013, 02:30:44 PM
The criminals are in custody, the investigation is underway.  Perhaps, out of respect for the young soldier's family, we should not use this tragedy to advance political points.
i've looked through the entire discussion and i don't see anything political...
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2013, 03:22:09 PM »
Quote from: BuckShot on May 23, 2013, 02:05:19 PM
More open CCW laws would have stopped this. The victim might be alive, and someone would be loading two more bullets.

or perhaps the criminals would have used guns instead of knives and still kill the person as they shot him from behind.

something is definitely wrong here.  I see people in the video all standing around doing nothing including whoever is taking the video.



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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2013, 04:47:16 PM »
Apparently the murderer's parents are originally from Nigeria, and Christians. Their son converted to Islam some 10 years ago.
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2013, 05:17:02 PM »
Quote from: guncrasher on May 23, 2013, 03:22:09 PM
something is definitely wrong here.  I see people in the video all standing around doing nothing including whoever is taking the video.
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The killing was done before most around realized what was happening. Hell a woman got off a bus and ran to check the victims pulse before realizing the man standing next to her had knives/guns and was covered in blood.

The killers at that point where not threatening anyone else. If someone in that crowd had tried to attack them, they could sparked a much worse situation. There were kids leaving school only a few metres down the road. The last thing needed at that point was a "hero".

The men with guns and knives were stopped by a few ladies who talked to them, to calm the situation. It was when the police arrived that the men attacked again and were brought down by an officer of the law.

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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2013, 06:14:34 PM »
Get all the islam freaks all on a big boat out to mid atlantic and then torpedo it savages the lot of them.

Sick of people in UK making excuses for their nutjob religon
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2013, 06:15:58 PM »
'eff it, every nation deserves this treatment if you are willing to bend down, lay down, and die for someone else's beliefs.
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2013, 07:21:07 PM »
Islamic terrorists are islamic by definition, just as Irish terrorists are Irish by definition and white supremacists who commit terrorism in the name of white supremacy are white by definition, but it's just not cool to speak against the entire group.  My own brother is an ignorant racist, but I'd be offended if people assumed I shared his views just because I share his DNA, let alone his general ethnocultural description.  If you want to isolate and de-legitimize the extremists, hate-preachers, and terrorists, forging common bonds with the greater community they come from is the best strategy available, not to mention giving you access to the best possible intelligence.
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Offline GScholz

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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #58 on: May 23, 2013, 07:23:04 PM »
My grandmother is the "extremist" in my family. When she heard what had happened in London she just said, rather quietly, from her comfy TV-chair: "About time we round them all up and chase them into the sea..."

I lolled.
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Re: I Perceive There Will Be a Reckoning
« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2013, 01:24:21 AM »
Quote from: guncrasher on May 22, 2013, 10:07:40 PM
perhaps you should.  the term is not any different than when we say "god grant me strength", "hail mary..", "oh my god" or the "lord is my Shepherd..."

most people think it's said only during a terrorist attack when actually it an expression that is used everyday and it could mean any of the above depending on the context that is used.

sad that misguided idiots use it thinking they are doing god's will.  but then again we have had  the kkk using religion here in the us as a way to commit terror.  idiots will be idiots and they will get their just reward.


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They openly stated to the media that their attack was religious/politicly motivated and a revenge for war on terror. Get a grip.
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