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Re: P-40N Rockets?
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2013, 10:36:19 AM »
How does it look like a field fit anymore than the rockets on the P-38G or P-38J?

Further, they are crappy rockets mounted on a mediocre airplane, so they won't have much effect on the game other than being a toy for fans of the mediocre airplane.  Let them have their toy.


 Just like the Gondolas on the 109 F4?  Why cant we have our toy?
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Re: P-40N Rockets?
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2013, 10:38:20 AM »

 Just like the Gondolas on the 109 F4?  Why cant we have our toy?
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Re: P-40N Rockets?
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2013, 10:40:45 AM »
just take a G2 my friend :aok


 I have since they took the Gondolas off the 109F4 cause some spit dweebs needed a matching setup  :mad:
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Re: P-40N Rockets?
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2013, 11:16:46 AM »
Actually prefer the G2 to the F4. Better climber :banana:
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Re: P-40N Rockets?
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2013, 11:46:26 AM »
I have since they took the Gondolas off the 109F4 cause some spit dweebs needed a matching setup  :mad:
And they took half the cannon ammo and the +16lbs boost from the Spitfire V because some 109 dorks needed a matching setup.

Get over yourselves.
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Re: P-40N Rockets?
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2013, 11:51:00 AM »
And they took half the cannon ammo and the +16lbs boost from the Spitfire V because some 109 dorks needed a matching setup.

Get over yourselves.

 Why does your spit have anything to do with the 109f4 loadout options?

 Why did they TAKE anything?


Edit: More 109f4/R were built from the factory <200> then about 5-6 planes in the game and its just a loadout option. About 600 109f4b's<bomb>. Dont forget you got that TAKEN away too.

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Re: P-40N Rockets?
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2013, 12:13:31 PM »
Why does your spit have anything to do with the 109f4 loadout options?

 Why did they TAKE anything?


Edit: More 109f4/R were built from the factory <200> then about 5-6 planes in the game and its just a loadout option. About 600 109f4b's<bomb>. Dont forget you got that TAKEN away too.

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You think I have the power to add or take things from AH?  You ascribe far more to me than I am.  I did suggest the changes to the Spitfire Mk V though.  Funny that that makes me a "Spitdweeb".

I was replying with your own words to show how stupid they are.

Now that CMs can disable loadouts there is no reason for the Bf109F-4 not to have its gondola or bomb option or for the Bf109G-6 to not have a 30mm option.

Your problem is that you come into a P-40N thread and try to make it about the Bf09F-4.  You can't handle people having a nice P-40N thread.
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Re: P-40N Rockets?
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2013, 12:40:34 PM »
You think I have the power to add or take things from AH?  You ascribe far more to me than I am.  I did suggest the changes to the Spitfire Mk V though.  Funny that that makes me a "Spitdweeb".

I was replying with your own words to show how stupid they are.

Now that CMs can disable loadouts there is no reason for the Bf109F-4 not to have its gondola or bomb option or for the Bf109G-6 to not have a 30mm option.

Your problem is that you come into a P-40N thread and try to make it about the Bf09F-4.  You can't handle people having a nice P-40N thread.

I don't think you have anything, I think because of you and a couple others the 109F4 does not have It's egg and its gondola option.

If that's what you think then lets get the bomb and gondolas back on the loadout option for the 109F4  :aok

You come into a P-40 thread .... bash it and then say its okay its crap.... let them have it ...why dont you feel the same about the 109f4 you say it adds all this weight and make the plane fly like donkey poo? So why do care what the load out options are on the 109's?.

At least try to be consistent Bookless Wonder Boy!

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Re: P-40N Rockets?
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2013, 02:18:45 PM »
I'll take it up a notch, the P40N also flew with a single Thousand pound bomb, normally they flew with two 300lb or 500lb bombs if not a single of either.



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Re: P-40N Rockets?
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2013, 03:11:04 PM »
-1....looks more like field fit than anything else


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The same can be said for the solid nose B25C these were not done in a factory in the USA.

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Re: P-40N Rockets?
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2013, 03:17:38 PM »
I'll take it up a notch, the P40N also flew with a single Thousand pound bomb, normally they flew with two 300lb or 500lb bombs if not a single of either.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/P-40/P-40N_Operational_Suitability.pdf

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Re: P-40N Rockets?
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2013, 05:43:26 PM »
6x250


A Curtiss Kittyhawk Mark IV of No. 450 Squadron RAAF in a dispersal at Cutella, south of Vasto,
Italy, with a 1,000-lb GP bomb slung underneath the fuselage, and two 500-lb GP bombs slung from
the wing loading points. Note the pierced steel plandking (PSP) covering the dispersal surface.



An RAF Wing Commander inspects a 1,000-lb GP bomb slung beneath the fuselage of a Curtiss
Kittyhawk Mark IV of No. 450 Squadron RAAF in a dispersal at Cutella, south of Vasto, Italy.
Two 500-lb GP bombs are also slung from the wing loading points.



Curtiss Kittyhawk Mark IV, FX745 'OK-Y', of No. 450 Squadron RAAF, taxying to the runway at
Cervia, Italy, loaded with three 250-lb GP bombs for a sortie in support of the 8th Army's
spring offensive in the Po Valley.


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Re: P-40N Rockets?
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2013, 09:24:09 PM »
"On the 5th of May 1944, a major bombing action was carried out by 239 Wing in order to breach the hydro-electric dam on the Pescara River.  The task-group comprised three dozen aircraft from three separate squadrons: 260 Squadron RAF (flying Mustangs), RAAF 3 Squadron (flying Kittyhawks), and SAAF 5 Squadron (flying Kittyhawks).

It was thought that the German Army intended to open the sluice gates of the Pescara Dam and flood the countryside to impede the advancing Allied troops after the new assault had commenced.  Allied Command decided to strike first, prior to starting their advance.

Twelve  3 Squadron Kittyhawks participated, led by the new C.O., Squadron Leader Rex Bayly.  The Kittyhawk IVs were armed with one 1,000 lb bomb and 2 x 500 lb. bombs each.  It was the first time the Squadron's new Kittyhawks had carried a 2,000 lb bomb load.  (Kittyhawk IIIs could only carry loads of 1,000lb.)  The result was that the immediate area, containing German supply and troop concentrations, was flooded and one of Italy's main sources of hydro-electric power was temporarily disabled, which helped the Allied advance.  The town of Pescara was reported to be under four feet of water.  The Squadron's ORB describes the mission as follows."

The individual pilots involved on the mission are also listed in the ORB.

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Re: P-40N Rockets?
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2013, 10:50:42 PM »
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Re: P-40N Rockets?
« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2013, 12:52:47 PM »



M8 Rocket

"The 4.5-in. aircraft rocket was among the first air-launched rockets developed for the U.S. military in World War II. The program was conducted primarily by the National Defense Research Committee (NDRC) and Army Ordnance. The first ground tests of the solid-propellant rocket motors occurred in May 1941, and in July 1942, the rocket was air-launched for the first time from a P-40 fighter.

The initial and most common model of 4.5-inch rocket was the M8. It was stabilized by four tail fins, which were fixed on initial M8s and folding on later ones. The M8A3 was a variant with a stronger motor containing a different type of propellant. The T22 was a further improved rocket, which was safer and more reliable than the M8. All these rockets flew at high subsonic speed and had an effective range of about 1600-3200 m (1-2 miles). M8-type rockets were also used as ground-launched 4.5-inch barrage rockets.

The USAAF used the 4.5-in. rockets with good results, especially in the 1943/44 winter against Japanese forces in Burma. However, the rockets were ineffective against many of the sturdier ground targets, and therefore the so-called "Super M8" was developed. It had four fixed fins and a larger and improved rocket motor, giving higher speed, range and destructive power. Its 18 kg (40 lb) warhead section was either a solid armour-piercing type or contained 3.9 kg (8.5 lb) of high-explosive. The "Super M8" was ready by December 1944, but was not used in combat.

Other models of the M8 family of rockets include the T46 practice rocket, the T78 with a SAP (Semi Armour Piercing) warhead, the T86 practice round for the T78, the T83 with a HE (High Explosive) warhead, and the T87 practice round for the T83."

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app4/45in-rockets.html
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