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Offline caldera

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Ki-43 is 40 ENY...huh?
« on: May 28, 2013, 01:04:18 PM »
Seriously, wtf?

Stats for Late War Tour 160:

Kills - 1837
Deaths - 1474
K/D - 1.25

Some rides with low kill totals can have an artificially high K/D for a tour when a leet cartoon pilot gets most of the sorties.  That doesn't seem to be the case with this aircraft, however.  Should be more like 25 ENY.
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Re: Ki-43 is 40 ENY...huh?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2013, 01:11:24 PM »
Uh ... greed. (Agreed)

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Re: Ki-43 is 40 ENY...huh?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2013, 02:20:28 PM »
KI43 is a pos. Without an La7 next to it to make the targets slowdown and turn it is a completely harmless plane. I target them as a relatively high priority because of their nuisance factor - their presence prevents me from duking it out with the spits et al.

The high K/D likely reflects the fact that it is difficult to hit it and that they dont usually wander far from the acks. An interesting question is who is the KI43 killer?
In absolute numbers this will likely be one of the most common rides, but which plane has the highest fraction of KI43 kills out of its total?
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Re: Ki-43 is 40 ENY...huh?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2013, 02:36:34 PM »
The Oscar is far from perk worthy, besides the Oscar isn't the only aircraft with a ratio of >1.0.
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Re: Ki-43 is 40 ENY...huh?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2013, 08:10:01 PM »
Who said anything about perking it?  Unless you know another 25 ENY plane that is perked.  Most of the planes with a K/D greater than 1.0 are not 40 ENY birds.  Sometimes the C.202 does well in that regard, but it is only due to one or a few good pilots (and hardly anybody else) flying it.  The Ki-43 has a very respectable K/D for being a lowly 40 ENY death trap that gets a fair amount of use.  Even a hopelessly mediocre pilot that I know quite well has a record of 28 kills to 2 deaths .vs fighters, flying the Ki-43. 

The A6M5 is 20 ENY and it does carry ords and have better guns, yet it doesn't take damage as well (which is kind of strange) and gets it's tail feathers handed to it by the Ki-43.
 
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Re: Ki-43 is 40 ENY...huh?
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2013, 08:34:34 PM »
The high K/D likely reflects the fact that it is difficult to hit it and that they dont usually wander far from the acks. An interesting question is who is the KI43 killer?
In absolute numbers this will likely be one of the most common rides, but which plane has the highest fraction of KI43 kills out of its total?


The P-51D is the plane with the absolute most kills of the Ki-43, but that doesn't mean much as the Pony is simply the most used fighter in the MA by a huge margin.
The plane with the highest fraction of Ki-43 kills out of its total... if you take out fighters with very low usage it's the Ki-43 itself  followed by the A6M's.
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Re: Ki-43 is 40 ENY...huh?
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2013, 09:36:02 PM »
The P-51D is the plane with the absolute most kills of the Ki-43, but that doesn't mean much as the Pony is simply the most used fighter in the MA by a huge margin.
The plane with the highest fraction of Ki-43 kills out of its total... if you take out fighters with very low usage it's the Ki-43 itself  followed by the A6M's.

Makes sense to me.

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Re: Ki-43 is 40 ENY...huh?
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2013, 01:26:49 AM »

The P-51D is the plane with the absolute most kills of the Ki-43, but that doesn't mean much as the Pony is simply the most used fighter in the MA by a huge margin.
The plane with the highest fraction of Ki-43 kills out of its total... if you take out fighters with very low usage it's the Ki-43 itself  followed by the A6M's.
I had a feeling you'd arrive at some point with such data :)

I didn't think of that, but that makes sense. The thing about 43 on 43 kills is that they push the K/D towards 1.
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Re: Ki-43 is 40 ENY...huh?
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2013, 07:07:39 AM »
Who said anything about perking it?

Sorry, I had one train of thought but typed out another, I am very distracted (I just lost my dad).

I wouldn't want to see thev ENY too low on the Oscar, it moves well but it i s armed miserably and is fairly slow.

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Re: Ki-43 is 40 ENY...huh?
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2013, 09:10:39 AM »
...I am very distracted (I just lost my dad).

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Yeah... 40 is probably a bit high but I doubt it should be any lower than 30.  As was said earlier, the plane is little threat unless you're in another slow turny bird or you're drunk flying a P-38.   :uhoh

Not that I've ever done that.. 

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Re: Ki-43 is 40 ENY...huh?
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2013, 10:08:03 AM »
Sorry, I had one train of thought but typed out another, I am very distracted (I just lost my dad).

I wouldn't want to see thev ENY too low on the Oscar, it moves well but it i s armed miserably and is fairly slow.

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Re: Ki-43 is 40 ENY...huh?
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2013, 12:10:08 PM »
Sorry, I had one train of thought but typed out another, I am very distracted (I just lost my dad).

I wouldn't want to see thev ENY too low on the Oscar, it moves well but it i s armed miserably and is fairly slow.

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Re: Ki-43 is 40 ENY...huh?
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2013, 01:56:59 PM »
My condolences, Del. Lost my mom late last year, so I feel for you. Take care, and God bless.
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Re: Ki-43 is 40 ENY...huh?
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2013, 05:35:28 PM »
My condolences, Delirium.  I am sorry to hear about your father's passing.

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Re: Ki-43 is 40 ENY...huh?
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2013, 07:59:11 PM »
Sorry, I had one train of thought but typed out another, I am very distracted (I just lost my dad).

I wouldn't want to see thev ENY too low on the Oscar, it moves well but it i s armed miserably and is fairly slow.

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Sorry to hear that.  I lost my Dad last August and life goes on but it's just not as good.
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