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Offline earl1937

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Do Away with the Strats!!
« on: June 09, 2013, 01:13:13 PM »
 :x I see a lot of complaints about the "strat" system in this game, so lets just do away with it and replace it with something more exciting!!  Each airfield or GV base, or Port, would have a supply depot 5 statue miles away, connected and fed by a railroad, complete with engines and cars, and yes, ack-ack! Then we could attack a targets supplies, which when destroyed would be down for a 30 min period. You would have the choice of killing the train, which also would be down for :30 min, or the supply depot. Then you could attack the target base without 55 Bish or Knights running M-3's with supplies to bring town back up, or to restore ack at base. We would still have the GV spawns as they are in game, so killing the VH which feeds a base would also have to be destroyed.
That would be a more realistic element of the game, instead of the "Video" system we have now. Then you could plan some coordinated attacks, using more than 1 squad and you would no longer have any use for the "hordes" that it takes now to capture a base. (It doesn't always take a horde, as one of my squad mates has 2 airfield captures by himself last tour}.
I think it would promote more air to air combat, more GV missions, as the GV's could kill the train or depot as well as aircraft. I am sure the "naysayers" will be out in full force on this thread, but just think about it for a minute and give a honest assessment, I could be over looking a logical reason why this would not be piratical!!
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Re: Do Away with the Strats!!
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2013, 01:16:53 PM »
it seems like a pretty good idea to me

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Re: Do Away with the Strats!!
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2013, 02:02:54 PM »
Wherever this thread ends up, strat buff fans tend to like strat and not tactical bomb runs.

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Re: Do Away with the Strats!!
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2013, 02:21:21 PM »
Fundamentally the Strat idea is fine, it just needs some fine tuning. As it is now its way to easy to take down, and too difficult to defend. :devil
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Re: Do Away with the Strats!!
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2013, 03:10:35 PM »
I like the current set up, it lends to the centralized "industrial heart" of a nation.  However, I believe another layer could be introduced, a more localized strat system.  About the only thing currently that equates to a localized system is the ability to destroy convoys and add 54 seconds on to the repair time of localized OBJ.  Me thinks there could be a bit a more indepth system, maybe more convoys???
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Re: Do Away with the Strats!!
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2013, 03:28:33 PM »
I like the current set up, it lends to the centralized "industrial heart" of a nation.  However, I believe another layer could be introduced, a more localized strat system.  About the only thing currently that equates to a localized system is the ability to destroy convoys and add 54 seconds on to the repair time of localized OBJ.  Me thinks there could be a bit a more indepth system, maybe more convoys???
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Re: Do Away with the Strats!!
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2013, 04:43:00 PM »
hmmmm...supply depots, interesting idea. if properly implemented it could add a supply line dimension to the game that perhaps works in conjunction with the strats. but it would have to be such that a single set of bombers, or horde of heavy fighters, could not fly around and pork a bunch of them in a single sortie. maybe have trains running from the strats to the supply depots and player controlled gv's run supplies from the depots to the airfields?

knock out the train supplying a depot (30 minutes down), then knock out the depot (30 minutes down) and the base can only be resupplied from another base via plane or vehicle. takes 2 train runs to rebuild the supply depot? penalty for supply depot being down, maybe 25% fuel and no ords?

or, maybe like was mentioned in another discussion, no vh on bases but gv's spawn in town like a motor pool type thing. then it could be gv's spawn in towns and supply depots are attached to the towns. kill the town and supply depot, no ords, limited fuel and gv's disabled.

a lot could be done with supply depots and a little restructuring...but personally i'd rather keep the strats.
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Re: Do Away with the Strats!!
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2013, 04:48:21 PM »
Old strat system, zones and zone bases was better  :old:
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Re: Do Away with the Strats!!
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2013, 05:43:37 PM »
Old strat system, zones and zone bases was better  :old:

Lots of the "OLD" things where better....but the  :cry babies will have their way :salute
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Re: Do Away with the Strats!!
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2013, 05:48:28 PM »
trains :noid train depot :noid

They are a part of the strategic complex, there is nothing "local" about them.   :aok 
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Re: Do Away with the Strats!!
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2013, 06:17:13 PM »
just think about it for a minute and give a honest assessment, I could be over looking a logical reason why this would not be piratical!!

Local changes and the addition of the supply depots and train lines would pretty much require a complete re-do of every map in the rotation. (-1)
   
The "local" supply dump for every base are the strats located on every field.   I would rather see the hardness and downtimes for those adjusted first.   

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Re: Do Away with the Strats!!
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2013, 07:04:39 PM »
They are a part of the strategic complex, there is nothing "local" about them.   :aok 
I know but I want a train depot for the strats so I can bomb it lol
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Re: Do Away with the Strats!!
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2013, 09:38:59 PM »
Each airfield or GV base, or Port, would have a supply depot 5 statue miles away, connected and fed by a railroad, complete with engines and cars, and yes, ack-ack!

We could have both... have a strategic supply/factory center with many satellite depots in the country side. More targets are necessary to make the best use of tactical aircraft, instead of allowing them to pound airfields relentlessly.
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Re: Do Away with the Strats!!
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2013, 10:21:02 PM »
We could have both... have a strategic supply/factory center with many satellite depots in the country side. More targets are necessary to make the best use of tactical aircraft, instead of allowing them to pound airfields relentlessly.

The supply depots could effect bases in that sector or grid, then the strats would effect the country as a whole (as they do now). 

Sounds good to me, more targets, and more things to defend.  As long as players can man the gun towers that are there, that would be sweeeet. :airplane:


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Re: Do Away with the Strats!!
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2013, 12:09:59 AM »
they tried the supply depot concept years ago it didn't last.

i think more depth that involves depots and more infrastructure that could be disrupted would be good for the game though.
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